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Old 02-02-2011, 07:32 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Maybe the business owners hiring these people could foot the bill. That might make that two dollars an hour less that they put out in payroll a little less attractive.

I'm sure that if this was the direction the politicians WANTED to go they could feed the CBO the correct stats to show it is feasible. I mean look at how they used the CBO to pass the health care debacle and what a mess that has turned out to be.

It's easy to make things look the way you want them to be perceived when you control the figures that are calculated.
I'd love to see both States and Fed really get nasty with dirtbag businesses that hire them. Once the illegal hiring stops they will self deport.
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Old 02-02-2011, 07:04 PM
 
Location: NW Las Vegas - Lone Mountain
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I'd love to see both States and Fed really get nasty with dirtbag businesses that hire them. Once the illegal hiring stops they will self deport.
Just drive the remainder further underground.

There are simply too many for an enforcement approach to work.
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Old 02-02-2011, 07:08 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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That is the problem? until this law is enforced in every State and consitent with each other, i suspect nothing will really become of it. We need to get freaking tough, on this issue, a President who is tough, and not on just talk, do something about this issue, and act like you really do give a damn.
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Old 02-02-2011, 07:18 PM
 
Location: NW Las Vegas - Lone Mountain
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That is the problem? until this law is enforced in every State and consitent with each other, i suspect nothing will really become of it. We need to get freaking tough, on this issue, a President who is tough, and not on just talk, do something about this issue, and act like you really do give a damn.
Congress could pass a law tripling the size of the enforcement agencies.

They don't and won't. Have not got the votes.

There is no will among the people to seriously increase enforcement.

A large majority wishes the illegals would go home. An almost equivalent group however opposes any attempt to force the exodus.
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Old 02-03-2011, 04:24 AM
 
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Congress could pass a law tripling the size of the enforcement agencies.

They don't and won't. Have not got the votes.

There is no will among the people to seriously increase enforcement.

A large majority wishes the illegals would go home. An almost equivalent group however opposes any attempt to force the exodus.
I don't think the majority opposes deporations. I think what people don't want are door-to-door searches or anything too dramatic.

Here at the border, you can actually watch deportations as they happen, the INS van pulls at to a gate, people get out of the van and head back into Mexico. No one cares. There aren't people protesting or complaining about it.

And there isn't a lot of "will" among the people as long as the unemployment checks continue to arrive on time and there is no suffering of Americans because of unemployment. However - that could quickly change if unemployed Americans suddenly needed jobs. Then they might like to see a little enforcement and have the flood of people coming over the border to work cheaply stopped.
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