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Old 02-07-2011, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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Wow. I wonder if anyone in my family could run up a bill like that and not be forced to sell every stick we own?
Of course not, only illegals get medical care and are allowed to just walk away from the bills.

 
Old 02-07-2011, 11:41 AM
 
Location: NW Las Vegas - Lone Mountain
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It was almost certainly an illegal discharge. There was no suitable receiving facility at the other end. So the Hospital violated the law. They actually sent him to an emergency hospital with no capability for long term care and no bed available.

Practically the move likely means the guy will live a short life with no real hope of any further rehabilitation.

An interesting problem. One would think the contractors involved would be liable at least via workmen's compensation.

The Hospital of course was left holding the bag which should not happen either. The feds really ought to be the funder of last resort in these cases to avoid harming local institutions.

If it is wrong for illegals to come here as you folks so often point out would you now support an illegal action against one? So only some kinds of illegal are bad?
 
Old 02-07-2011, 12:02 PM
 
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It was almost certainly an illegal discharge. There was no suitable receiving facility at the other end. So the Hospital violated the law. They actually sent him to an emergency hospital with no capability for long term care and no bed available.

Practically the move likely means the guy will live a short life with no real hope of any further rehabilitation.

An interesting problem. One would think the contractors involved would be liable at least via workmen's compensation.

The Hospital of course was left holding the bag which should not happen either. The feds really ought to be the funder of last resort in these cases to avoid harming local institutions.

If it is wrong for illegals to come here as you folks so often point out would you now support an illegal action against one? So only some kinds of illegal are bad?
"If" it is wrong for illegals to come here? No "if" about it. If what the hospital did was illegal then that is wrong also. I am no hypocrite. If our government is made to pony up on those medical costs guess who's pocket it is really come out of though? That is why we need to enforce our immigration laws adamantly so that these things don't happen.
 
Old 02-07-2011, 12:16 PM
 
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If he stayed where he belonged and respected the laws this wouldn't have happened. .

The Pro-Illegal community has NO right to complain about ANYTHING if they were not paying his $650,000.00 medical bill AND for his future upkeep that AMERICANS got stiffed for.

Simple solution, put your money where your mouth is or ****. As to whoever illegally hired this poor guy I hope he gets sued into bankruptcy.
 
Old 02-07-2011, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, New York
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Originally Posted by olecapt View Post
It was almost certainly an illegal discharge. There was no suitable receiving facility at the other end. So the Hospital violated the law. They actually sent him to an emergency hospital with no capability for long term care and no bed available.

Practically the move likely means the guy will live a short life with no real hope of any further rehabilitation.

An interesting problem. One would think the contractors involved would be liable at least via workmen's compensation.

The Hospital of course was left holding the bag which should not happen either. The feds really ought to be the funder of last resort in these cases to avoid harming local institutions.

If it is wrong for illegals to come here as you folks so often point out would you now support an illegal action against one? So only some kinds of illegal are bad?

If the employees are illegal, the contractors were not paying WC or UI or anything else. The contractors would have to be sued.
 
Old 02-07-2011, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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Under Illinois law an illegal worker is entitled to Workers Compensation which makes me wonder why the hospital didn't process this guy as a WC case.
 
Old 02-07-2011, 01:00 PM
 
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When I was unemployed, I broke one of my teeth and was bleeding very profusselly. Anyway , drove myself to the Hospital. Stayed there for 40 minutes (did not have any insurance). My bill was close to 700 (I am still paying them)

My neighbohr (whom I suspect is undoccumented, I don't know for sure) had her baby at the same hospital, C-Section. Paid nothing. Go figure. I have been paying taxes and fees and BS to stay legal here . She gets a lot of stuff from the gvmt via her citizen kid.

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Old 02-07-2011, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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When I was unemployed, I broke one of my teeth and was bleeding very profusselly. Anyway , drove myself to the Hospital. Stayed there for 40 minutes (did not have any insurance). My bill was close to 700 (I am still paying them)

My neighbohr (whom I suspect is undoccumented, I don't know for sure) had her baby at the same hospital, C-Section. Paid nothing. Go figure. I have been paying taxes and fees and BS to stay legal here . She gets a lot of stuff from the gvmt via her citizen kid.

<end of rant>
The birth was probably paid for via Medicaid
 
Old 02-07-2011, 01:10 PM
 
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The birth was probably paid for via Medicaid
Still, a C-Section in DC is like 8-12k. She is not even authorized to be here (I am 99% sure she is not) I dont want to sound like a B. but I made an effort (HUGE!) to play by the rules. Just staying here legally costed me circa 20k and not to mention waiting circa 10 years for my papers. So it is super unfair. Plus is like using a kid. WHich I find awful.
 
Old 02-07-2011, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Originally Posted by olecapt View Post
It was almost certainly an illegal discharge. There was no suitable receiving facility at the other end. So the Hospital violated the law. They actually sent him to an emergency hospital with no capability for long term care and no bed available.

Practically the move likely means the guy will live a short life with no real hope of any further rehabilitation.

An interesting problem. One would think the contractors involved would be liable at least via workmen's compensation.

The Hospital of course was left holding the bag which should not happen either. The feds really ought to be the funder of last resort in these cases to avoid harming local institutions.

If it is wrong for illegals to come here as you folks so often point out would you now support an illegal action against one? So only some kinds of illegal are bad?
How is it an illegal discharge? There are no laws requiring a hospital to provide long-term “free” care to illegal aliens. Regardless of the capabilities of the receiving hospital, are you suggesting there are NO facilities in Mexico in which he can receive adequate care?
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