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Some people seem to have an issue with actually reading posted articles.
This one CLEARLY states this guy was here illegally and also working when the accident occurred. In which case the hospital should go after his employer for WC reimbursement for his medical bills.
Perhaps you should re-read the quoted post. Nowhere in it does it state that illegals have no rights here or are "fair game" (to what I'm still unsure).
That poster was correct. He WAS here illegally and nobody other than you is questioning his undocumented status. He also took a job illegally (recall that it is illegal to hire undocumented workers?). What part of that do you not comprehend? Whether or not he was qualified to do the job is a moot point.
What rights are you referring to anyhow? The right to a lifetime of care provided free of charge? The only people in our country that are granted that are those on medicaid and medicare, which is not available to illegal aliens unless they are granted asylum in our country. This patient did not apply for, nor was he granted asylum so again, your point is moot. He does not qualify for lifetime medical care in our country, period.
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Sounds to me like he rolled the dice and lost.
So our system is a crap shoot? That it? If you are an illegal you have no rights? If that is the case why not shoot them down?
If they have rights then they are the same ones the rest of us have. There are rules about shoving someone out of a hospital. Were they observed?
Are we a nation of laws...or just vigilantes? You pick the laws you observe?
Right to a lifetime of care? Sure. If that is what our laws say. If you don't want that change the law. I would think this guy should have received normal workman's compensation...which apparently did not happen.
Go after the guy who paid him money to be on that roof. Though remember he may not have the money to pay the bill. Then who?
I guess we could set aside a little area outside each hospital where we let the unworthy succumb...sounds a bit harsh though.
Some people seem to have an issue with actually reading posted articles.
This one CLEARLY states this guy was here illegally and also working when the accident occurred. In which case the hospital should go after his employer for WC reimbursement for his medical bills.
Now there is one we agree on...
Though it often turns out that he worked for a shell that vanished as soon as he fell.
So our system is a crap shoot? That it? If you are an illegal you have no rights? If that is the case why not shoot them down?
If they have rights then they are the same ones the rest of us have. There are rules about shoving someone out of a hospital. Were they observed?
Are we a nation of laws...or just vigilantes? You pick the laws you observe?
Right to a lifetime of care? Sure. If that is what our laws say. If you don't want that change the law. I would think this guy should have received normal workman's compensation...which apparently did not happen.
Go after the guy who paid him money to be on that roof. Though remember he may not have the money to pay the bill. Then who?
I guess we could set aside a little area outside each hospital where we let the unworthy succumb...sounds a bit harsh though.
Wow. Just. Wow.
How big of a pencil did you have to buy in order to draw those conclusions?
So our system is a crap shoot? That it? If you are an illegal you have no rights? If that is the case why not shoot them down?
Stop responding out of emotion and think about what you're saying. Our country is based in laws, laws that you clearly do not comprehend nor care to educate yourself on.
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Originally Posted by olecapt
If they have rights then they are the same ones the rest of us have. There are rules about shoving someone out of a hospital. Were they observed?
The hospital stabilized the patient and moved him to a facility in his home country that could provide for his care. Our laws do not state that the receiving facility must have the same standard level of care that we (citizens of the US) enjoy in our country.
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Originally Posted by olecapt
Are we a nation of laws...or just vigilantes? You pick the laws you observe?
Huh? Medical repatriation is not against the law.
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Originally Posted by olecapt
Right to a lifetime of care? Sure. If that is what our laws say. If you don't want that change the law. I would think this guy should have received normal workman's compensation...which apparently did not happen.
That's patently not what our laws state. Read up and you might learn a thing or two.
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Go after the guy who paid him money to be on that roof. Though remember he may not have the money to pay the bill. Then who?
Nobody is stopping him from suing his employer. Feel free to donate to his legal (and medical) funds.
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Originally Posted by olecapt
I guess we could set aside a little area outside each hospital where we let the unworthy succumb...sounds a bit harsh though.
You clearly have no clue how our laws work in this country. YOU are the one who is taking issue with the law, which states that hospitals must stabilize the patient and then move them to an appropriate long term care facility. Nowhere does it state that that facility must be on US soil and nowhere does it state that illegal aliens are entitled to free longterm care in any private or public medical facility. They are able to apply for asylum so that they may qualify for medicaid, but there is no guarantee or semblance of any guarantee that they have the same rights as citizens of our country. If you don't like it, work to change the law but it is what it is and your feeble minded opinion doesn't change it.
Stop responding out of emotion and think about what you're saying. Our country is based in laws, laws that you clearly do not comprehend nor care to educate yourself on.
The hospital stabilized the patient and moved him to a facility in his home country that could provide for his care. Our laws do not state that the receiving facility must have the same standard level of care that we (citizens of the US) enjoy in our country.
Huh? Medical repatriation is not against the law.
That's patently not what our laws state. Read up and you might learn a thing or two.
Nobody is stopping him from suing his employer. Feel free to donate to his legal (and medical) funds.
You clearly have no clue how our laws work in this country. YOU are the one who is taking issue with the law, which states that hospitals must stabilize the patient and then move them to an appropriate long term care facility. Nowhere does it state that that facility must be on US soil and nowhere does it state that illegal aliens are entitled to free longterm care in any private or public medical facility. They are able to apply for asylum so that they may qualify for medicaid, but there is no guarantee or semblance of any guarantee that they have the same rights as citizens of our country. If you don't like it, work to change the law but it is what it is and your opinion doesn't change it.
Yeppers.
If I tried that in MEXICO: they would laugh at my pocho butt.
It was almost certainly an illegal discharge. There was no suitable receiving facility at the other end. So the Hospital violated the law. They actually sent him to an emergency hospital with no capability for long term care and no bed available.
Practically the move likely means the guy will live a short life with no real hope of any further rehabilitation.
An interesting problem. One would think the contractors involved would be liable at least via workmen's compensation.
The Hospital of course was left holding the bag which should not happen either. The feds really ought to be the funder of last resort in these cases to avoid harming local institutions.
If it is wrong for illegals to come here as you folks so often point out would you now support an illegal action against one? So only some kinds of illegal are bad?
How can something be illegal when the person is a non-person in America?
Hope they shipped him back to Mexico in the bed of a POS pickup truck like the illegals like to drive.......
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