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Old 02-10-2011, 01:18 AM
 
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Laws pertaining to Illegal aliens and their enablers should be made more severe.

Friends, employers and Family that KNOWINGLY hire, house and shelter Illegal Aliens from Law enforcement should be held accountable just like any other person aiding and abbetting a crime or criminal would be.

Heavy fines and jail time should be made mandatory for anyone proven to help hide,employ, traffic and conceal people Illegally in the USA.

Those proven to assist known prior deportees and Illegals with a past criminals record should definitely be open to asset siezure and forfeiture.

Measures like this are needed for National security and would greatly reduce the Illegal alien problem.

At the rate the US is going at right now this problem will never be solved, the laws we have right now are ignored, randomly enforced or ignored altogether.

With terrorist networks worldwide and a porous border it is only a matter of time before another major attack on US soil happens.

If the USA doesn't get a handle on this issue now, in the future we only have to look at Israel with it's many checkpoints, militarized border and and stringent Security measures as a way of life.
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Old 02-10-2011, 01:50 AM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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Oh, we have the laws......they're just not enforced

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Section 274 felonies under the federal Immigration and Nationality Act, INA 274A(a)(1)(A):

A person (including a group of persons, business, organization, or local government) commits a federal felony when she or he:

* assists an alien s/he should reasonably know is illegally in the U.S. or who lacks employment authorization, by transporting, sheltering, or assisting him or her to obtain employment, or

* encourages that alien to remain in the U.S. by referring him or her to an employer or by acting as employer or agent for an employer in any way, or

* knowingly assists illegal aliens due to personal convictions.

Penalties upon conviction include criminal fines, imprisonment, and forfeiture of vehicles and real property used to commit the crime. Anyone employing or contracting with an illegal alien without verifying his or her work authorization status is guilty of a misdemeanor. Aliens and employers violating immigration laws are subject to arrest, detention, and seizure of their vehicles or property. In addition, individuals or entities who engage in racketeering enterprises that commit (or conspire to commit) immigration-related felonies are subject to private civil suits for treble damages and injunctive relief.
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Old 02-10-2011, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Native Floridian, USA
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Another excellent post by OP. It is going to take all Americans really getting mad with our legislators, etc, for something to happen that is positive and not just bandaid ideas but permanant solutions.
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Old 02-10-2011, 01:52 PM
 
Location: The Greater Houston Metro Area
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Right now, breaking those laws is only a misdemeanor. Upping it to a felony and going after the employers would take care of the problem in an amazingly efficient and quick way. It's not going to happen - the lawmakers are bought and paid for by those employers.
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Old 02-10-2011, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Phoenix,Arizona
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Another excellent post by OP. It is going to take all Americans really getting mad with our legislators, etc, for something to happen that is positive and not just bandaid ideas but permanant solutions.
As long as the murders, rapes, kidnappings, ID theft, and credit fraud is happening to everyone EXCEPT our elected local/state/federal officials, their family members, and close friends -- illegal Entry into the U.S.A. is officially NOT A PROBLEM.
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Old 02-10-2011, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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Right now, breaking those laws is only a misdemeanor. Upping it to a felony and going after the employers would take care of the problem in an amazingly efficient and quick way. It's not going to happen - the lawmakers are bought and paid for by those employers.
If you read the section of immigration law I quoted it IS already a felony. It's just not enforced as such.
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Old 02-10-2011, 02:15 PM
 
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As long as the murders, rapes, kidnappings, ID theft, and credit fraud is happening to everyone EXCEPT our elected local/state/federal officials, their family members, and close friends -- illegal Entry into the U.S.A. is officially NOT A PROBLEM.
Yes since the wealthy profit from this and save money by hiring Illega Aliens and generally don't live near them they don't care.

Their gated communities don't have to deal with them.
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Old 02-10-2011, 03:02 PM
 
Location: The Greater Houston Metro Area
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If you read the section of immigration law I quoted it IS already a felony. It's just not enforced as such.
Ahhhh.....you are right. My bad. I thought they were only misdemeanors because no effort is used in enforcing them.
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Old 02-12-2011, 08:25 AM
 
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The government needs money and no one is going to mind if huge fines and penalties are placed on those who traffic humans or employ illegals. Big fines woud be a way to collect the money for the many costs of illegals - their free health care, education costs for their kids, the costs of deporting them, the extra costs for law enforcement and so on.

No one would object to going after the employers hard. That is what should be done.
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Old 02-12-2011, 11:23 AM
 
Location: NW Las Vegas - Lone Mountain
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Don't you folk ever tire of baying at the moon?

To actually prevent illegals working would require internal passports and likely control of all cash transactions.

The US continues to resist such steps.

Tightening employment policy mostly drives them from the white to the gray market.

Even the everify so loved here has about a 50% error rate in allowing illegals to be cleared.

The problem was allowed to become too big and no longer has an enforcement solution.

But bay on...that maintains the status quo and guarantees the worse case outcome.
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