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Please read your own post. If the hospital doesn't try to collect from the illegal migrant that means they're essentially getting free care. You then went on to argue that illegal immigrants should have medical care paid for by medicaid. In other words free medical care at the American taxpayer's expense.
I reiterate: why should anyone but the illegal migrant have to pay for their medical costs?
Sorry..where did I say they don't try to collect?
You people keep trying to put words into my mouth...don't. I speak for myself.
The general reason they get a free ride is they have no reachable resources. Just like a really poor native.
But they are certainly billed and the collection agency is used.
Sorry for your predicament. The system does favor the illegal but for bad reasons. They can't get into the system enough to be harrassable.
The hospitals do try and collect from illegals and those on welfare etc. Just does not yield much results. I would also note that the hospitals overcharge you all to hell in that circumstance.
It would also appear that your child got treated even though you did not pay at the time of service.
Yes, well....not quite. In order to qualify for that fantastic pay-off rate they offered me, I had to borrow $500 from my folks to give them before my son left the hospital.
If we cannot help our own who cannot afford emergency care, we have NO business giving beyond the most basic of stabilizing emergency care to illegal aliens.
Oh trust me, foreign nationals here legally are definitely "on the hook" for the bills. We don't get ours forgiven because we can just run away from them using false identities, names and addresses. Only those here illegally seem to be able to just walk away from their bills
Anyway, back on topic, this self entitled cow already tied up the courts by insisting on a JURY TRIAL for her allegedly (according to some here) "trivial offense", but if she doesn't like the jury verdict she'll tie up even more resources and court time by appealing...........some lawyer she'd make. She sure has being a piece of entitled slime down pat, so maybe she'd fit right in.
So in other words she brought in on herself. Is there no end to her arrogance? She should be billed for jury costs.
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Sorry..where did I say they don't try to collect?
You people keep trying to put words into my mouth...don't. I speak for myself.
The general reason they get a free ride is they have no reachable resources. Just like a really poor native.
But they are certainly billed and the collection agency is used.
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They can't get into the system enough to be harrassable.
So basically they're getting free medical care.
You also wrote that they should be on medicaid and their health care costs paid for the feds. Medicaid and the feds are paid for by the American taxpayer. I want to know why I, an American taxpayer, should be billed for the medical costs of illegal migrants.
If you are not paying your medical bills and you are here illegally you should be deported as a public charge. Legal migrants can't pull that stunt. Why should illegal migrants be allowed to get away with it?
So in other words she brought in on herself. Is there no end to her arrogance? She should be billed for jury costs.
You wrote:
So basically they're getting free medical care.
You also wrote that they should be on medicaid and their health care costs paid for the feds. Medicaid and the feds are paid for by the American taxpayer. I want to know why I, an American taxpayer, should be billed for the medical costs of illegal migrants.
If you are not paying your medical bills and you are here illegally you should be deported as a public charge. Legal migrants can't pull that stunt. Why should illegal migrants be allowed to get away with it?
Yes, well....not quite. In order to qualify for that fantastic pay-off rate they offered me, I had to borrow $500 from my folks to give them before my son left the hospital.
If we cannot help our own who cannot afford emergency care, we have NO business giving beyond the most basic of stabilizing emergency care to illegal aliens.
If you had refused the $500 they would have let your son go home with you anyway.
It is actually a form of shakedown. The overcharge you by a factor of two or three and then offer part of it back in return for some payment.
I would think you would also find that if you had flatly refused and waited 6 or 9 months you could have settled it for 25 cents on the dollar.
they play exactly the same game with illegals. Offer a large discount for some up front payment. And some pay it.
So in other words she brought in on herself. Is there no end to her arrogance? She should be billed for jury costs.
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So basically they're getting free medical care.
Basically they can't or sometimes won't pay. Just like a poor native. They have some advantage in that they have no obvious employer...or relatives in the US or reachable assets. But that in no way says they don't owe the money or the hospital does not try to collect.
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You also wrote that they should be on medicaid and their health care costs paid for the feds. Medicaid and the feds are paid for by the American taxpayer. I want to know why I, an American taxpayer, should be billed for the medical costs of illegal migrants.
If you are not paying your medical bills and you are here illegally you should be deported as a public charge. Legal migrants can't pull that stunt. Why should illegal migrants be allowed to get away with it?
Again you apparently feel it is OK to wreck the local hospitals to pay for indigent illegal care. I don't. I think the feds should pick up the bill. Why do you want to wreck the local hospitals?
And yet again the last people ICE is going after is anyone sick. They do not want sick people in custody because they know they will have to pay the medical bills.
Basically they can't or sometimes won't pay. Just like a poor native. They have some advantage in that they have no obvious employer...or relatives in the US or reachable assets. But that in no way says they don't owe the money or the hospital does not try to collect.
Again you apparently feel it is OK to wreck the local hospitals to pay for indigent illegal care. I don't. I think the feds should pick up the bill. Why do you want to wreck the local hospitals?
And yet again the last people ICE is going after is anyone sick. They do not want sick people in custody because they know they will have to pay the medical bills.
The feds are paid for out of my tax dollars. Why should my tax dollars go to pay for free medical care for illegal aliens? You have not answered this question.
If local hospitals are being wrecked because poor illegal migrants believe themselves entitled to medical care they can't pay for the solution is simple: pay for immediate serious medical issues and then bill the home country of the illegal migrant. Minor medical bills should be paid for out of the migrant's pockets not mine. If an illegal migrant is seriously ill, stabilize them, then ship them home and bill them. If they refuse to pay for the medical bills deduct it from any foreign aid.
At no point in time should I, an American taxpayer, be taxed to pay for an illegal immigrant's medical care.
Ultimately you are arguing vastly against illegal migration and in favor of sharper enforcement of our immigration laws. No one should be allowed to come here with evidence of any kind of serious medical issue. You should be required to demonstrate evidence that you have medical insurance or face immediate deportation. Anyone found in violation of these laws should be fined and then again deported.
The feds are paid for out of my tax dollars. Why should my tax dollars go to pay for free medical care for illegal aliens? You have not answered this question.
And you don't pay for your local hospital? Who do you think does?
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If local hospitals are being wrecked because poor illegal migrants believe themselves entitled to medical care they can't pay for the solution is simple: pay for immediate serious medical issues and then bill the home country of the illegal migrant. Minor medical bills should be paid for out of the migrant's pockets not mine. If an illegal migrant is seriously ill, stabilize them, then ship them home and bill them. If they refuse to pay for the medical bills deduct it from any foreign aid.
At no point in time should I, an American taxpayer, be taxed to pay for an illegal immigrant's medical care.
Ultimately you are arguing vastly against illegal migration and in favor of sharper enforcement of our immigration laws. No one should be allowed to come here with evidence of any kind of serious medical issue. You should be required to demonstrate evidence that you have medical insurance or face immediate deportation. Anyone found in violation of these laws should be fined and then again deported.
All you have to do is get the sending nations to agree to pay the bill. Should be simple. Get to it. In the interim let the feds pick up the bill.
I would be of the opinion that virtually none of the existing illegal immigrants should be allowed in under any circumstances. I am skeptical of the existing legal immigration and believe that could well be constructively curtailed. Unless the foreigners has some unusual attribute he is not required.
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