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Old 02-14-2011, 05:00 PM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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ok, you are really off your rocker here.
pay to be impregnated...
lack of "progress" leads to daydreaming and "inventing" problems that don't even exist. That's the problem when you expect change overnight.

Its hard to accept change, even harder to accept the slow pace of change...and it seems evident that some are totally fustrated with pace of realistic change.



Change comes slowly --> Reality sets in [causes] --> fustration and confusion [leads] --> to daydreaming --> "off rocker".
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Old 02-14-2011, 06:13 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Any ideas on how to avoid the fraud that would come if birthright citizenship is ended. There will surely be a market for legal males to put their names down on the childs birth certificate so citizenship can be acquired. You can ask for papers at the hospital, but proving paternity may be a problem.

Perhaps adding paternity tests as a standard post-natal test in the hospital wouldn't really add much of or any kind of burden. But then you could have the fake daddy show up to the hospital, sign papers and give blood while the real daddy is standing in the background as "uncle" or something.

I guess the only way to be sure would be to have the father perform the blood test at the same time he shows his proof of legality.

Any ideas?
Well it could be a costly scam. If the woman ever ends up on welfare the state can come after him for child support. Not to mention the child could inherit his estate, if he dies when he is a minor he can't disinherit.

Very risky but you're right a market would develop.

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Old 02-14-2011, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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In such a case the law may treat this situation as if the child was born abroad. If so here are the rules.


Supreme Ct Weighs Rights of Unmarried Dads' Children Born Abroad | Fulton County Divorce Attorney Blog



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Under U.S. law, a child born abroad to unmarried parents is considered a U.S. citizen as long as one parent is a U.S. citizen and meets certain requirements. According to the lawsuit, this was the state of the law when the plaintiff, Ruben Flores-Villar, was born:
  • If the U.S. citizen-parent was the father, the child was a U.S. citizen as long as the father had lived in the U.S. for at least ten years before the child was born, and at least five of those ten years had to be after he turned 14. In other words, the youngest an unmarried father could be in order to confer citizenship on his child was 19.
  • If the citizen-parent was the mother, however, the child was a U.S. citizen if the mother had lived in the U.S. for a total of one year at any time before the child was born, with no age restriction.
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Old 02-14-2011, 07:00 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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ok, you are really off your rocker here.
pay to be impregnated...


US version

http://travel.state.gov/law/citizens...ship_5177.html
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Old 02-14-2011, 07:12 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Great find!
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Old 02-14-2011, 07:20 PM
 
Location: NW Las Vegas - Lone Mountain
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Default By the time this has any applicability...

We will all have died of old age and Mexico will be recruiting US workers...
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Old 02-14-2011, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Metropolis
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We will all have died of old age and Mexico will be recruiting US workers...
If you say so.

Ariz. may require hospitals to check citizenship - Health - Health care - msnbc.com
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Old 02-14-2011, 08:25 PM
 
Location: NW Las Vegas - Lone Mountain
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Another thread. Antis don't even know how to tell if it already been worked.
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Old 02-15-2011, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Metropolis
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Another thread. Antis don't even know how to tell if it already been worked.
It ain't been worked yet.
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Old 02-16-2011, 12:54 AM
 
Location: Metropolis
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Another thread. Antis don't even know how to tell if it already been worked.
That is why I posted this as a question in a hypothetical context. Still no ideas I guess.
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