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Old 02-18-2011, 04:40 PM
 
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I agree! Illegal immigrants should work on their papers and do things the right way. It will work out better for them in the end rather than risking their lives of being shot by an American who had a badge or even those without a badge.

People can post links to crimes illegal immigrants have done. That’s bad, shouldn’t happen. And you can also find many links of illegal immigrants who were killed after they jumped the fence even if they posed no threat to the us custom guy or the rancher out there.

“Oh my gawd they are stealing our jobs” oh suuuure. Can you guys ever see a Caucasian picking strawberries in the fields and getting his hands dirty? Sure, get illegal immigrants out of the country! I SUPPORT THAT! Just don’t complain when prices for your produce double, landscaping, etc. It is the same Americans who hire illegal immigrants because they know how much they can save with labor and even tax them.

As for the world not liking Americans, well, too bad. I am not saying it is right.
This is the same old pro-illegal propaganda that has been posted in here over and over. I see you have bought into it. For crop pickers there are unlimited H-2A visas to hire LEGAL immigrant workers. That may be the only job that most Americans would not make a career out of. As for landscaping, construction and the other numerous blue collar jobs that illegals have taken Americans have always done those jobs but at a fair wage before the arrival of millions of illegal aliens. Even if prices would go up (but it wouldn't be much) with the social costs passed on to Americans for these illegals the higher prices would be a bargain.

If you jump another country's borders illegally be prepared for all kinds of nasty things to happen to you. Don't be surprised if in some cases that you will be shot at first and asked questions later. It is a part of living the life of a criminal. Funny, how it is never the illegal aliens fault in the minds of some.

We have had many like you come in here and claim to be anti-illegal while singing the praises of all that illegals do for us and making them out the victim in all of this. Sorry, we don't buy it anymore.

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Old 02-18-2011, 06:04 PM
 
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We have had many like you come in here and claim to be anti-illegal while singing the praises of all that illegals do for us and making them out the victim in all of this. Sorry, we don't buy it anymore.
I must've missed the post where the Administrator or a Senior Mod dedicated this forum to only those of you who consistently espouse hatred and violence towards other human beings. Would you be so kind as to point that post out for everyone?
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Old 02-18-2011, 11:50 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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I agree! Illegal immigrants should work on their papers and do things the right way. It will work out better for them in the end rather than risking their lives of being shot by an American who had a badge or even those without a badge.

People can post links to crimes illegal immigrants have done. That’s bad, shouldn’t happen. And you can also find many links of illegal immigrants who were killed after they jumped the fence even if they posed no threat to the us custom guy or the rancher out there.

“Oh my gawd they are stealing our jobs” oh suuuure. Can you guys ever see a Caucasian picking strawberries in the fields and getting his hands dirty? Sure, get illegal immigrants out of the country! I SUPPORT THAT! Just don’t complain when prices for your produce double, landscaping, etc. It is the same Americans who hire illegal immigrants because they know how much they can save with labor and even tax them.

As for the world not liking Americans, well, too bad. I am not saying it is right.
FYI, more than 50% of the citizens opposing illegal immigration happen to be Blue Collar workers, including myself. I'm a ceritfied mechanic and have been for the last 35 years. I was also raised on a Dairy Farm.
So when you start throwing out cliche's like "Americans don't like to get their hands dirty". address it to yourself first. It's obvious that you have no idea of what a "hard days work" is.
So why don't you cut your "off the wall" BS.
Your disrespect for others has clearly been noted.
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Old 02-18-2011, 11:57 PM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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“Oh my gawd they are stealing our jobs” oh suuuure. Can you guys ever see a Caucasian picking strawberries in the fields and getting his hands dirty? Sure, get illegal immigrants out of the country! I SUPPORT THAT! Just don’t complain when prices for your produce double, landscaping, etc. It is the same Americans who hire illegal immigrants because they know how much they can save with labor and even tax them.
Your ignorance and lack of education in the history of this country is pretty appalling. May I suggest you read up on the "migrant workers" so called during the 1930s etc. They were called migrant workers because they were Americans who migrated from state to state following the harvests, not because they were here illegally from another country. Nowadays most Americans won't work for the "wages" scumbag employers of illegal labour are willing to pay. Do some research on how little the rates of pay for farm labour etc have changed in the last 30 years.

and cut the BS about how only non Caucasians know what hard manual labour is....................sheeesh
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Old 02-19-2011, 08:27 AM
 
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This thread has veered off topic somewhat - but I think it's time for the public to question the sending of ICE agents far into the interior of Mexico.

I know they have some stationed to supposedly inspect cartons and shipments long before they reach the border - and obviously contraband of any kind could easily be added to these shipments at some later point.

Keep the inspections at the border itself, even if it means delays. Putting our law enforcement agents in drug cartel regions is not a good policy at all - but it's also very ineffective - we all know there's no delay at the border for the cartel trafficking operations because the inspections aren't done at the border.
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Old 02-19-2011, 09:08 AM
 
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They were called migrant workers because they were Americans who migrated from state to state following the harvests, not because they were here illegally from another country.
Good lord, which books have you been reading? Maybe they were just partisan internet links....Calling another poster ignorant and their knowledge of American history appalling is kind of strange, when you make statements like migrant farm workers from the 30's were not here illegally. I'd really like to know what book you found that info in, or was it an internet link.
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Old 02-19-2011, 09:27 AM
 
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This thread has veered off topic somewhat - but I think it's time for the public to question the sending of ICE agents far into the interior of Mexico.
Do you think retreating agents back to within the borders of the US will have any effect on the cartels or make us any safer? I read that the agents were not working with local law enforcement, but were returning to the Embassy. I don't think we'll know anytime soon, if ever, exactly what the agents were working on.

Interesting quotes from this article: The Zeta gang have said they will turn over whomever was responsible for this assault and murder (unlikely). They said the attack was a "mistake."

There's a link in this article for those who wish to help out the Zapata family.

Jaime Zapata's Body Returns To The Valley - KRGV CHANNEL 5 NEWS - The Rio Grande Valley's News Channel - Breaking News, Breaking Stories - RGV News (http://www.krgv.com/news/local/story/Jaime-Zapatas-Body-Returns-To-The-Valley/QAZqnPizb0-fSXP9b4R3MA.cspx - broken link)
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Old 02-19-2011, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Riverside County
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Quick question, should the US treat it's illegals the same way Mexico does? yes or no.
OnihC, you gonna answer this question or what.

Those that live in glass houses comes to mind.
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Old 02-19-2011, 07:05 PM
 
Location: Tempe, Az
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I must've missed the post where the Administrator or a Senior Mod dedicated this forum to only those of you who consistently espouse hatred and violence towards other human beings. Would you be so kind as to point that post out for everyone?
What?

I saw nothing bad with chicagonuts post.
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Old 02-19-2011, 07:11 PM
 
Location: NW Las Vegas - Lone Mountain
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and all the US citizens killed in their own country by those here illegally are just collateral damage of looking for a better life right?

You illegal apologists never cease to amaze me with your blind rhetoric

and trust me you do not want us to start posting examples of the killings perpetrated by MEXICAN border officials on their southern border............
More correctly you could argue that those who did not die because the illegals displaced the more muderous locals should be thankful.

And I am sure we could start listing the murders by natives. Manson comes immediately to mind. But there are a few thousand others if you really want to go there.
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