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Old 02-16-2011, 01:47 PM
 
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I have never supported dual citizenship. IMO, it’s like having a spouse and a lover. Your loyalties are divided.
I totally agree, Benicar.
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Old 02-16-2011, 01:49 PM
 
Location: NW Las Vegas - Lone Mountain
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Last I checked having two spouses was illegal.
In some cultures. In some cultures have two or more spouses is considered a good thing.

And in some cultures having a lover is illegal...
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Old 02-16-2011, 02:20 PM
 
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Is a dual citizenship OK when a leader of country claims part of the other country is theirs and saying "wherever there is a Mexican there is Mexico."
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Old 02-16-2011, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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1. Most dual citizens are not even aware of their dual citizenship, as few Americans are familiar with the citizenship laws of their ancestral homelands.

2. Dual citizenship can bring benefits (and obligations) that have nothing to do with loyalty. For example, the ability to inherit or own property, or sometimes even just get a job can be based on citizenship.
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Old 02-16-2011, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Inis Fada
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In some cultures. In some cultures have two or more spouses is considered a good thing.

And in some cultures having a lover is illegal...
This isn't about other cultures, although some cultures feel they have the right to break the law. In this country having two spouses is illegal.
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Old 02-16-2011, 05:49 PM
 
Location: CITY OF ANGELS AND CONSTANT DANGER
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i liken it more to having divorced parents.

dual citizenship does not preclude national loyalty...

this has been forumed to death here...

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I have never supported dual citizenship. IMO, it’s like having a spouse and a lover. Your loyalties are divided.
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Old 02-16-2011, 06:09 PM
 
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i liken it more to having divorced parents.

dual citizenship does not preclude national loyalty...

this has been forumed to death here...
It could in some cases though. Many of Mexican ancestry even though born here are still fiercely loyal to Mexico and Mexicans. Many even put those Mexican illegals here above our laws and are pro-amnesty for them and any Americans who oppose those views are deemed racists even though they are their fellow Americans.
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Old 02-16-2011, 06:17 PM
 
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the issue is with dual citizenship. and having dual citizenship has never been proven or shown to make one less patriotic.

if anything it has only provided some people an escape route from severe punishment (i.e. the US citizen who fled to martinique or a french carribean island and sought to be tried [there] for a murder he comitted in the US. his mother is french, thus he has french citizenship) i dont agree with those kind of situations. otherwise there is not really a problem with dual citizenship. it will not make you hate the country you live in, or be more loyal to another country.

many people have dual citizenship. i know some of them. they are just as patriotic as anyone in the US.

it has too be taken on a case by case basis.

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It could in some cases though. Many of Mexican ancestry even though born here are still fiercely loyal to Mexico and Mexicans. Many even put those Mexican illegals here above our laws and are pro-amnesty for them and any Americans who oppose those views are deemed racists even though they are their fellow Americans.
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Old 02-16-2011, 07:43 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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i liken it more to having divorced parents.

dual citizenship does not preclude national loyalty...

this has been forumed to death here...
You’re right, this has been discussed before. No need to beat a dead horse. However, let’s hope none of those with dual citizenship ever have to decide during wartime, between defending the U.S., or their other country of equal allegiance.
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Old 02-16-2011, 08:03 PM
 
Location: 3rd rock from the sun
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You’re right, this has been discussed before. No need to beat a dead horse. However, let’s hope none of those with dual citizenship ever have to decide during wartime, between defending the U.S., or their other country of equal allegiance.
I'm not making a case against dual citizenship but the issue of divided loyalties came up in WW2. When a German POW escaped from a Canadian POW camp he used a series of German safehouses to make his way down to Mexico. He was apprehended in San Antonio.

PoW Escape from Camp 30 Bowmanville
The Abwehr’s agents had provided Krug with names and addresses of safe houses, which he was to contact if he were to make it safely to Detroit. His first contact was a Mrs. Bertelmann who in turn introduced him to restaurant owner Max Stephan. Given food and lodging and money for his trip, Krug headed out for his final destination, Mexico, a neutral country.

(it's an interesting Great Escape type story complete with papier-maché dummies to fool the guards at roll call)
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