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Old 02-22-2011, 07:26 AM
 
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I hope they also convict the Americans that sold them the guns. They can keep arresting all those carrying guns but if the supply doesn't stop, its meaningless.
Should they have a sign outside American gun stores "No Mexicans allowed"?

La Raza would scream bloody murder if it's people were denied weapons when American citizens have the Second Amendment rights.
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Old 02-22-2011, 07:29 AM
 
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I've seen a few pics of heavy machine guns, rocket launchers and hand grenades seized from the cartels in Mexico. Those weapons are not coming from the US. I'm not denying the existence of American rifles in Mexico because that's just silly, but to lay the sole blame on America is just as silly. The Mexican military is just as culpable as any American gun store. Why do they get a free pass?
Some of them are. A while back there was an advisory for people who might want to display NRA bumper stickers that was only opening them up for burglaries and robberies, here near the border, a large number of burglaries are for the purpose of stealing weapons, often pawn shops are broken into. Having an NRA sticker only tells the thieves you probably have weapons they want.

Very likely these weapons were never purchased from their owners and our own military bases are wide open to illegals - often illegals are found working in them. Nothing stops someone from gaining access to the arsenals here and things can come up missing.
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Old 02-22-2011, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Riverside County / Maricopa County
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Some of them are. A while back there was an advisory for people who might want to display NRA bumper stickers that was only opening them up for burglaries and robberies, here near the border, a large number of burglaries are for the purpose of stealing weapons, often pawn shops are broken into. Having an NRA sticker only tells the thieves you probably have weapons they want.
I'm not sure what this has to do with what I was talking about.

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Very likely these weapons were never purchased from their owners and our own military bases are wide open to illegals - often illegals are found working in them. Nothing stops someone from gaining access to the arsenals here and things can come up missing.
So, you believe the majority of military grade weapons ( heavy machine guns, rocket launchers, hand grenades etc.. ) are coming from thefts taking place at US Military bases? Keep in mind, enough weapons to arm different cartels - are coming from the US military - and not the Mexican Military? Where are you getting this? I'm sorry, but I disagree.
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Old 02-22-2011, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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From the OP's link:
"Drug smugglers seek out guns in the U.S. (http://topics.chron.com/topics/United_States - broken link) because gun laws in Mexico (http://topics.chron.com/topics/Gun_politics_in_Mexico - broken link) are more restrictive than in the United States."

Anything higher than a .38 calibre is considered a military weapon.

They have to come here to buy weapons. Where in the link does it say they were seeking a better life ~ And where better to buy weapons than the US?
The article mentions nothing about them seeking a better life in the US. However, it IS the pro-illegal mantra. Surely you’re not suggesting the U.S. is the only weapon-producing country, or that these criminals give a flying fig about laws in Mexico.
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Old 02-22-2011, 10:10 PM
 
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I'm not sure what this has to do with what I was talking about.



So, you believe the majority of military grade weapons ( heavy machine guns, rocket launchers, hand grenades etc.. ) are coming from thefts taking place at US Military bases? Keep in mind, enough weapons to arm different cartels - are coming from the US military - and not the Mexican Military? Where are you getting this? I'm sorry, but I disagree.
They can get them from everywhere, any country but they are getting some from the USA. Nothing stops anyone from crossing over the southern border legally or illegally and they can easily access military bases and can go anywhere.

Allison Kilkenny: Missing Weapons: The Nation's Great Threat

I suspect they get most from Mexico's military and of course any Central American military and can easily import weapons from all kinds of countries but they have occasionally stopped vehicles with weapons that went through El Paso.
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