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Israel build a huge wall and how many homicide bombers have we heard off?
Hardly any since the wall was build so why not build one here and put barb wire on top of it....see how many illegals will come in...
Than start to solve the illegal issue over here and we won't get as many coming in again.
Why 25ft? why not 20ft? and if we can afford a 20ft barrier along the 2,200 mile southren border, wouldn't 30ft high be even better?
Great Wall of china? WTF!!! We can even afford more border patrol agents.
So lets spend more money...like we are doing now, to build "sections" of the great southren wall. It doesnt go all the way across the 2,200 mile southren border, its not 25ft high; and it can be-and is being-tunneled under...lets spend the money to make us "Feel" good. Is that was meant by border "security". Oh, BTW...how that sectional great border wall working?
Any politician that proposes spending money on a 25ft high "Barbed-wire topped great wall" along our 2,200 mile southren border is a complete idiot...
Why 25ft? why not 20ft? and if we can afford a 20ft barrier along the 2,200 mile southren border, wouldn't 30ft high be even better?
Great Wall of china? WTF!!! We can even afford more border patrol agents.
So lets spend more money...like we are doing now, to build "sections" of the great southren wall. It doesnt go all the way across the 2,200 mile southren border, its not 25ft high; and it can be-and is being-tunneled under...lets spend the money to make us "Feel" good. Is that was meant by border "security". Oh, BTW...how that sectional great border wall working?
Any politician that proposes spending money on a 25ft high "Barbed-wire topped great wall" along our 2,200 mile southren border is a complete idiot...
The exact height of the wall is unimportant. What it does is deter illegal immigration and assists the Border Patrol to do their jobs more effectively. It should be used on the most porous parts of our border (as we were promised). There is no plan to erect a wall along the entire 2,200 miles of our southern border. It isn't necessary. They have equipment now that can detect underground tunnels being built. No, it won't be built to make us "feel good" it would be built to help protect our border.
In the San Diego area where the double-layed wall was erected it cut back illegal entry by something like 80%. Sure many of them probably tried to enter somewhere else but the point is if we erect that type of wall along the most vulnerable and porous areas of our border it will cut illegal entry down to a trickle.
Any monies spent to secure our borders is well worth it considering what the alternative would be with the enormous expense that illegals are costing us and the continued threat of terrorism by OTM's.
Yeah, where is the outrage over that. I can hear it now, "but I don't live in Mexico, I live here". Sorry, but if you disapprove of a wall on U.S. borders then you should disapprove it for all country's. I mean it would have to be for the same reasons, right?
The exact height of the wall is unimportant. What it does is deter illegal immigration and assists the Border Patrol to do their jobs more effectively. It should be used on the most porous parts of our border (as we were promised). There is no plan to erect a wall along the entire 2,200 miles of our southern border. It isn't necessary. They have equipment now that can detect underground tunnels being built. No, it won't be built to make us "feel good" it would be built to help protect our border.
In the San Diego area where the double-layed wall was erected it cut back illegal entry by something like 80%. Sure many of them probably tried to enter somewhere else but the point is if we erect that type of wall along the most vulnerable and porous areas of our border it will cut illegal entry down to a trickle.
Any monies spent to secure our borders is well worth it considering what the alternative would be with the enormous expense that illegals are costing us and the continued threat of terrorism by OTM's.
Yet no national politician is proposing more monies for any work on the "stopped" border fence. Why do you think that is?
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Another border security measure with a high price tag but not many supporters: the 600 miles of fence erected along the border since 2005. A 2009 Government Accountability Office audit found that the fence – still unfinished – had cost $2.4 billion to build, and would require another $6.5 billion to maintain over the next 20 years.
I see you also didn't mention the High-tech, high costing "virtual fence"...dont support using funds on that?
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...Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano froze funding for a "virtual fence" begun under President Bush in 2006. The string of towers was intended to catch illegal border-crossers using cameras, radar, and ground sensors, but it was "plagued with cost overruns and missed deadlines," Secretary Napolitano said. The program had burned through some $2.4 billion between 2005 and 2009
No we just cant throw money at a project just because it supposed to fight illegal immigration.
I see you also didn't mention the High-tech, high costing "virtual fence"...dont support using funds on that?
No we just cant throw money at a project just because it supposed to fight illegal immigration.
Far too many of our politicans want the flow of illegals to keep coming, that is why so they took the fundiing for it out of the budget. There are still some Republicans who want the physical barrier to be completed as promised.
I never supported the "virtual fence" it was a joke, wouldn't work and as it turned out had a lot of flaws in it. It was abandoned and rightly so.
The real wall has been known to work. I gave you an example of it. It wouldn't be throwing money away.
But how many US citizens will cry nimby when they see walls, towers and military walking around with M16a4's in hand?
If the wall is high enough you don't need military to stay there since they won't be able to get over it, unless they will be dropped off with a helicopter...
People who come here and work while being an illegal are also people who committed theft and/or fraud to get an ID.
If the wall is high enough you don't need military to stay there since they won't be able to get over it, unless they will be dropped off with a helicopter...
Height isn't the problem. How about depth or thickness of the wall? You may want to research the Egyptian wall. The walls cut down the incursions but didn't stop people from tunneling underneath it or blowing up sections of it. The Egyptians are going back and updating the depth of the ground vibration sensors. The military will need to be further from the wall patroling for tunnel opennings. Both Israeli's & Egyptians patrol their walls, they just do it with less personnel. The U.S. created too many different security levels. Why not use the military since they are already paid for. We have nearly 50,000 people in Japan sitting there doing nearly nothing.
If we build a 25 ft wall somebody will build a 26 ft ladder or dig a tunnel.
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