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Old 02-24-2011, 12:04 AM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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If illegal immigration doesn’t register on your personal radar, so be it. I suppose if illegal immigration is irrelevant, outsourcing of jobs to foreign nations, and in-sourcing through H-1B visas are also extraneous. All are fueled by corporate greed and a desire for cheap labor. And, all are major factors in the impending dissolution of our middle class. Not to mention, the unsustainable fiscal burden of illegal immigration. But, again, it is your prerogative to consider illegal immigration a non-issue. As they say, ignorance is bliss.
Very good post Benicar; and accurate too. It appears that something as important as Illegal Immigration, is so irrelevant to some. I agree with your statement that corporate greed is fueled by cheap labor, we all know this by now. They are definitely a burden but once again, it is each and every person's perogatove, to believe what it is that they belive in.

Ignorance when it comes to illegal immigration is more then bliss!
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Old 02-26-2011, 12:27 PM
 
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Some things are a given even though not spoken. If illegal immigration is being called a non-issue by some it is merely hiding behind one's true advocacy for it. We've seen it far too many times in here.
remember the first 3 letters of the word assume and there you have it
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Old 02-26-2011, 05:24 PM
 
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remember the first 3 letters of the word assume and there you have it
Interesting that all of these initital assumptions have proved out to be true in here. A leopard can't hide their spots.
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Old 02-27-2011, 06:30 AM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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if i say "illegals aren't that big of a big deal" would you try to convince me otherwise?

No. If you did say that I would take it that you have absolutely no real concept of the isssue so I wouldn't waste my time. Illegals are a huge problem for us in Massachusetts. Obviously we aren't anywhere near the border. Most of the illegals here are from Brazil. Get educated....
True. I live in Mass and used to work in Lawrence... though Brazilians are a small number there.

My dad came here legally from Brazil almost 40 years ago. He dispises Illegal aliens and has no respect for them. Neither do I.

Some people who don't live in states that are affected by illegal immigrants simply do not understand how big of a problem that is. I was stationed in southern Arizona, Texas and I saw that everyday. In Mass it just gets worse by the minute.

I would like to bring the OP to Lawrence so she can take a look at a city that is 76% Hispanic and full of Illegal Immigrants who don't even speak English...but then I'd probably hear things along the lines of "But they are just hard working people who came to this country to have a better life and do the jobs Americans won't do!". Isn't that what we hear from supporters everyday?

I am moving to Maine in a year or so because I just can't deal with what this state is becoming. I am going to finish my Politica Science degree up there and "fight" to bring this country back to where it should be.
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Old 02-27-2011, 07:30 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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True. I live in Mass and used to work in Lawrence... though Brazilians are a small number there.

My dad came here legally from Brazil almost 40 years ago. He dispises Illegal aliens and has no respect for them. Neither do I.

Some people who don't live in states that are affected by illegal immigrants simply do not understand how big of a problem that is. I was stationed in southern Arizona, Texas and I saw that everyday. In Mass it just gets worse by the minute.

I would like to bring the OP to Lawrence so she can take a look at a city that is 76% Hispanic and full of Illegal Immigrants who don't even speak English...but then I'd probably hear things along the lines of "But they are just hard working people who came to this country to have a better life and do the jobs Americans won't do!". Isn't that what we hear from supporters everyday?

I am moving to Maine in a year or so because I just can't deal with what this state is becoming. I am going to finish my Politica Science degree up there and "fight" to bring this country back to where it should be.
So you want to become an Immigration Attorney?

That's right, Immigration isn't considerded a "political" issue.
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Old 02-27-2011, 08:22 AM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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So you want to become an Immigration Attorney?

That's right, Immigration isn't considerded a "political" issue.
Are you being sarcastic?

I believe politicians are the ones allowing this atrocity to take place, not only that but the people who vote for them. So I do believe illegal immigration and politics to be related.
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Old 02-27-2011, 08:44 AM
 
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I believe politicians are the ones allowing this atrocity to take place, not only that but the people who vote for them. So I do believe illegal immigration and politics to be related.
imo: they (the illegals) are allowed to stay so that social security stays afloat. maybe that's why there's recent ss tax relief recently, as a thrown bone /smokescreen
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Old 02-27-2011, 09:24 AM
 
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imo: they (the illegals) are allowed to stay so that social security stays afloat. maybe that's why there's recent ss tax relief recently, as a thrown bone /smokescreen
How are they keeping SS afloat when many are being paid under the table? You do realize that the jobs they are holding could be held my Americans instead that wouldn't be paid under the table and instead would actually be paying into the SS fund.
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Old 02-27-2011, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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Are you being sarcastic?
I believe politicians are the ones allowing this atrocity to take place, not only that but the people who vote for them. So I do believe illegal immigration and politics to be related.
Yes. I'm being sarcastic about being an "imigration Attorney".

But it's true, no matter how many politicians are involved, they still say that Immigration is not a political issue.
It's considered a "Human Rights" issue.
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Old 03-01-2011, 05:10 PM
 
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How are they keeping SS afloat when many are being paid under the table? You do realize that the jobs they are holding could be held my Americans instead that wouldn't be paid under the table and instead would actually be paying into the SS fund.
guess you've never heard of a fake social security number Feds Bust Violent Fake ID Ring
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