U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies > Illegal Immigration
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 02-26-2011, 01:01 AM
 
3,849 posts, read 3,162,024 times
Reputation: 2451

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by chicagonut View Post
I wonder if the Mexicans also find their own equivalent of our ICE officials in their country who go after those illegal Guatamalas and others from south of their border entering their country illegally as being "malevolent and despicable"? Or is this just more of their hypocricy?
What I find odd is that some people believe that it's the USA's fault because Americans use drugs, NEWSFLASH !!! So do Mexicans both Countries have drug addicts and both Countries have each other's citizens in prison on both sides.

The other one is that US made guns are at fault.
Canada probably has just as many Winchesters,Smith & Wessons and numerous other American made weapons, by using that logic why doesn't Canada have the same problems?

Drug use has been common in the US for decades the out of control violence in Mexico is a more recent issue.

Regardless of where you stand on the issue it is always a Sad Day when our Law Enforcement Officers, Innocent kids( American & Mexican), Mexican LE officers and others are killed in such a coldblooded manner.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 02-26-2011, 01:10 AM
 
29,988 posts, read 35,855,551 times
Reputation: 12719
Quote:
Originally Posted by antarez View Post
What I find odd is that some people believe that it's the USA's fault because Americans use drugs, NEWSFLASH !!! So do Mexicans both Countries have drug addicts and both Countries have each other's citizens in prison on both sides.

The other one is that US made guns are at fault.
Canada probably has just as many Winchesters,Smith & Wessons and numerous other American made weapons, by using that logic why doesn't Canada have the same problems?

Drug use has been common in the US for decades the out of control violence in Mexico is a more recent issue.

Regardless of where you stand on the issue it is always a Sad Day when our Law Enforcement Officers, Innocent kids( American & Mexican), Mexican LE officers and others are killed in such a coldblooded manner.
Well, part of the guns are the USA's fault but not in the way the anti-gunners would have us believe. BATFE has been encouraging FFLs at our Southern border to complete sales that they have intentionally notified BATFE of as being highly suspicious multi-gun straw purchases.

Gunrunning scandal uncovered at the ATF - CBS Evening News - CBS News

Will we ever know if BATFE pushed gun sales were responsible for this agent's death? Likely not.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-26-2011, 01:40 AM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
19,899 posts, read 15,291,186 times
Reputation: 6451
Quote:
Originally Posted by Benicar View Post
Yes, isn’t it interesting? I have always believed the so-called “War on Drugs” is merely a smokescreen. Our open borders and lax enforcement has facilitated the cartel incursion. Now, they have a stronghold in most major U.S. cities. Yet, government officials denied the drug war had crossed the border. They are here in full force, and it is only a matter of time before we see heads hanging from bridges.

But, our borders are “more secure” than ever.


Nationwide sweep underway of Mexican drug cartel members | Alabama's

I also feel as you do, that the so called "WAR ON DRUGS" is a definite smokescreen for something larger. Yeah Janet sure our borders are safer then they have ever been, women what you been drinking.

Our open borders and such a lax of enforcement, have made the cartels more powerful. And they do have a stronghold in most major U.S. cities sad but true. But our lovely government officials and Janet, deny their is a problem as we have on our borders, or that the drug war has come across our borders. Something much bigger here, something more here then we even can imagine i am sure. But what! Hey Janet since our Borders are safer in your opinion, how bout a overnight stay.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-26-2011, 01:42 AM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
19,899 posts, read 15,291,186 times
Reputation: 6451
Quote:
Originally Posted by Benicar View Post
Yes, isn’t it interesting? I have always believed the so-called “War on Drugs” is merely a smokescreen. Our open borders and lax enforcement has facilitated the cartel incursion. Now, they have a stronghold in most major U.S. cities. Yet, government officials denied the drug war had crossed the border. They are here in full force, and it is only a matter of time before we see heads hanging from bridges.

But, our borders are “more secure” than ever.


Nationwide sweep underway of Mexican drug cartel members | Alabama's 13

Tried to rep ya, but you know the ole cliche, so here it is
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-26-2011, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Maryland
15,179 posts, read 15,813,362 times
Reputation: 3028
Quote:
Originally Posted by lifelongMOgal View Post
Well, part of the guns are the USA's fault but not in the way the anti-gunners would have us believe. BATFE has been encouraging FFLs at our Southern border to complete sales that they have intentionally notified BATFE of as being highly suspicious multi-gun straw purchases.

Gunrunning scandal uncovered at the ATF - CBS Evening News - CBS News

Will we ever know if BATFE pushed gun sales were responsible for this agent's death? Likely not.
In addition, we have major U.S. banks knowingly transacting business with drug cartels. Greed and corruption abounds.

Quote:
The smugglers had bought the DC-9 with laundered funds they transferred through two of the biggest banks in the U.S.: Wachovia Corp. and Bank of America Corp., Bloomberg Markets magazine reports in its August 2010 issue.

This was no isolated incident. Wachovia, it turns out, had made a habit of helping move money for Mexican drug smugglers. Wells Fargo & Co., which bought Wachovia in 2008, has admitted in court that its unit failed to monitor and report suspected money laundering by narcotics traffickers -- including the cash used to buy four planes that shipped a total of 22 tons of cocaine.
Banks Financing Mexico Gangs Admitted in Wells Fargo Deal - Bloomberg
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-26-2011, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Maryland
15,179 posts, read 15,813,362 times
Reputation: 3028
Quote:
Originally Posted by california-jewel View Post
Tried to rep ya, but you know the ole cliche, so here it is
Thanks. It’s the thought that counts.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-01-2011, 03:50 AM
 
1,150 posts, read 991,058 times
Reputation: 369
<<the US government is in too deep with the cartels, allows them control over the border. Why?>>

Probably because the cartels, like Calderon, know where all the bodies are buried, and if they talk, many of our politicians will be in prison.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-04-2011, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Maryland
15,179 posts, read 15,813,362 times
Reputation: 3028
Quote:
Calderon said there is "political will" in Mexico for extradition if it complies with Mexican law, and the suspects must face justice no matter where any trial takes place.
Obama, Calderon cite cooperation, challenges in talks - CNN.com

Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-07-2011, 04:15 PM
 
2,381 posts, read 4,410,081 times
Reputation: 475
It has been decided that the murderers of Zapata will be extradited to the US. Irony is will the US DOJ pay justice to the family of Zapata for providing the gun that killed Zapata? hmmm...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-08-2011, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Maryland
15,179 posts, read 15,813,362 times
Reputation: 3028
Quote:
Originally Posted by zacatecana View Post
It has been decided that the murderers of Zapata will be extradited to the US. Irony is will the US DOJ pay justice to the family of Zapata for providing the gun that killed Zapata? hmmm...
I imagine he’ll be prosecuted like other murderers. The DOJ doesn’t accept responsibility for the weapons used in other murders, so why would they for this? Hopefully, he’ll get the death penalty, and the execution won’t take 20 years.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies > Illegal Immigration
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2018, Advameg, Inc.

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top