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Old 03-03-2011, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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The Birthright Citizenship Act of 2011 would add to the existing federal code a provision that requires at least one parent of a new born to be a U.S. citizen or legal permanent resident in order for the new born to receive automatic citizenship.


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Old 03-03-2011, 11:30 AM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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The bill currently has 67 co-sponsors and amends current U.S. code to require at least one parent to be a U.S. citizen or legal permanent resident for a new born to receive automatic citizenship.

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TITLE 8 > CHAPTER 12 > SUBCHAPTER III > Part I > 1401


1401. Nationals and citizens of United States at birth


The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:
(a) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;



How can this be amended if it taken straight form the US Constitution...?
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Old 03-03-2011, 12:10 PM
 
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TITLE 8 > CHAPTER 12 > SUBCHAPTER III > Part I > 1401


1401. Nationals and citizens of United States at birth


The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:
(a) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;



How can this be amended if it taken straight form the US Constitution...?
Amendments have never been made to our Constitution before? Your clue here is "AND" subject to the jurisdiction. If illegals and their anchors were automatically subject to our full jurisidiction there would have never been a need to put the word "AND" in the clause as a qualifier.
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Old 03-03-2011, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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Amendments have never been made to our Constitution before? Your clue here is "AND" subject to the jurisdiction. If illegals and their anchors were automatically subject to our full jurisidiction there would have never been a need to put the word "AND" in the clause as a qualifier.
True that - it doesn't just state "a person born in the USA" does it now?
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Old 03-03-2011, 01:02 PM
 
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Where would the baby have citizenship of? if it was born in the US.
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Old 03-03-2011, 01:06 PM
 
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Amendments have never been made to our Constitution before? Your clue here is "AND" subject to the jurisdiction. If illegals and their anchors were automatically subject to our full jurisidiction there would have never been a need to put the word "AND" in the clause as a qualifier.
Indeed. One wonders what the meaning or purpose of "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof" has if not to qualify the first part?

Would seem pretty superfluous, no?
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Old 03-03-2011, 01:15 PM
 
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Where would the baby have citizenship of? if it was born in the US.
Many countries require that at least one parent be a citizen of their country in order for their newborn to qualify for birth citizenship. The baby either becomes the citizen of their father's or mother's homeland. IMO, if we ever adopt this no-nonsense approach to citizenship the newborn should be made a citizen of the mother's homeland since she gave birth to it.
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Old 03-03-2011, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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Where would the baby have citizenship of? if it was born in the US.
Erm, the citizenship of it's parents perhaps? the argument oft put forward that denying USC to those born here of illegals somehow makes that child "a stateless person" is disingenuous to say the least.
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Old 03-03-2011, 03:22 PM
 
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Children should be citizens of their mother's country, unless the parents were legally married at the time of the birth, and the father is a US citizen, in which case they can claim citizenship through the father.
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Old 03-03-2011, 03:23 PM
 
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Children should be citizens of their mother's country, unless the parents were legally married at the time of the birth, and the father is a US citizen, in which case they can claim citizenship through the father.
I totally agree with you.
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