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Old 03-06-2011, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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He should realize that as he's in Spain.

Interestingly enough, he doesn't bring up the destruction of Mexican and Peruvian cities by the Spaniards. The Aztecs hated the Spanish Conquistadors.

But actually - so what - that happened a long long time ago and things in the past are history. Just like slavery and many things of the past, we can't undo them but we don't have to allow them.

Just because the Spaniards took lands that belonged to Aztecs, Incans and many others doesn't mean we have to allow all of Central America to colonize the USA and make it their own.

They have their countries, we have ours. Their countries like ours are actually a mix of races and ethnicities, but what's different are the system of laws, the cultures, the languages.

All of Central America can not simply relocate to the USA for the good life. Yes we can accomodate some, those who wish to join the people of the USA, learn our language and culture, adapt to our ways, but this moving entire villages over en masse is foolish.
http://i1098.photobucket.com/albums/g378/malcolm001/shhh-1.png (broken link) We’re not supposed to know that.
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Old 03-06-2011, 09:24 AM
 
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We’re not supposed to know that.
Yeah, we're only supposed to know that the evil British caused destruction of everything they touched, the Spaniards were all chummy and lovely. That way, PC Americans have a reason to hate white people (even if they are white themselves), and latinos have a reason to somehow blame their problems on the gringo
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Old 03-06-2011, 09:53 AM
 
Location: bold new city of the south
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All of Central America can not simply relocate to the USA for the good life. Yes we can accomodate some, those who wish to join the people of the USA, learn our language and culture, adapt to our ways, but this moving entire villages over en masse is foolish.
If I invite someone to my house to share a meal, that is acceptable. If you break into my house, raid my refrigerator and trash my house, that is not acceptable.
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Old 03-06-2011, 10:54 AM
 
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I view them like you would any refugee. Is it illegal? Technically. If they are not career criminals but are fleeing poverty and criminal acts then I understand.
As a matter of fact I can respect that more than I can a "drunk driver" or someone who "speeds" because they are late for work. Mexican refugees don't come over here to harm you, they risk harm to themselves. Yet the later Americans that break driving laws could possibly harm people, or even kill them.
Is it ethical to live next door to these people without helping them? Do you feel fine in your rich state, good homes, with your freedom to walk down the street while your neighbors are starving, and afraid for their families life? It's a difficult situation, especially if you have any compassion for others.
I guess it's all relative to me. No one questions the people fleeing other countries because of poor circumstances, why do we? I think we are just use to their plight.

I might add I think all people are different. During an ice storm their are some that have crowded homes with heat and some that don't open their doors and just watch their neighbors without it out it through their window and thank God they have a generator or their electricity wasn't effected. It just depends on the person.
Mexico is not a poor country.

The world's richest man lives there as well as eleven other billionaires. Mexico has rich national resources. Mexican officials and their own poor have decided that rather than ask the rich oligarchs who control Mexico to create a decent society for their own people they will simply ship their poor and uneducated people here.

How is that fair? Can we take our poor people and ship them to Mexico after Mexicans said no? Can we then demand that Mexicans educate their children in English, provide them with free medical care and put food on their table?

Why not?

How is it ethical to demand that Americans provide all sorts of services for foreigners who break our laws and contribute nothing in turn? Particularly when said foreigners refuse to demand anything from their own rulers?
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