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Old 03-06-2011, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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“In order to remove an illegal alien, ICE must secure travel documents which allow the alien to depart the U.S. and enter a foreign country,”

In other words, if illegal aliens commit murder in this country or any other violent crime, unless we receive authorization from their countries of origin to deport them, we are stuck with the scumbags. Regardless of one’s stance on illegal immigration, how can anyone condone this?


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Now a convicted killer, Heng is here illegally and has avoided deportation for his crimes. Additionally, the potential exists for the same thing to happen in the future for two other men also convicted in the brutal killing.

A spokesman for ICE explained that due to a U.S. Supreme Court decision in 2001 (the Zadvydas and Martinez decisions), ICE is only allowed to hold potential deportees for six months and even the most violent ex-cons are subject to that rule. After six months are up, detained individuals are, by law, required to be released to the streets.
Free to Stay – Former Gang Member, Convicted Killer, Illegal Alien Finds His Way Back to the Streets | Revere Journal - Revere Massachusetts Newspaper
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Old 03-06-2011, 10:48 AM
 
Location: 3rd rock from the sun
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What is the solution? How do you deport someone (Cambodia in this case) if their native country won't take them? Catapult?
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Old 03-06-2011, 11:05 AM
 
Location: in here, out there
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Catapult is a good idea. Or, just toss them out of an airplane with a parachute.
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Old 03-06-2011, 11:15 AM
 
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What is the solution? How do you deport someone (Cambodia in this case) if their native country won't take them? Catapult?
Well, if their countries refuse them, perhaps we should consider execution. We should not be forced to tolerate violent criminals who enter our country illegally, simply because their countries wish to rid themselves of their scum. Must we also become the dumping ground for the world’s criminal population? This murderer is here illegally, which means he can’t “legally” work, which also means he will commit additional crimes to survive. Chances are, he will kill again, then what? How many people must die before this asinine ruling is overturned?
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Old 03-06-2011, 11:19 AM
 
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Catapult is a good idea. Or, just toss them out of an airplane with a parachute.
Or, without. Why not show him the same level of compassion he offered his victim.
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Old 03-06-2011, 11:36 AM
 
Location: 3rd rock from the sun
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The screw up here is a court that only gave him 9 years for murder.

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How many people must die before this asinine ruling is overturned?
The 2001 Zadvydas Supreme Court decision broke down as follows:

Majority:
Breyer (appointed by Clinton)
Stevens (Ford)
O’Connor (Reagan)
Souter (Bush)
Ginsburg (Clinton)
Dissenting:
Scalia (Reagan)
Thomas (Bush)
Kennedy (Reagan)
Rehnquist (Reagan)

ZADVYDAS v. DAVIS
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Old 03-06-2011, 11:55 AM
 
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The screw up here is a court that only gave him 9 years for murder.


The 2001 Zadvydas Supreme Court decision broke down as follows:

Majority:
Breyer (appointed by Clinton)
Stevens (Ford)
O’Connor (Reagan)
Souter (Bush)
Ginsburg (Clinton)
Dissenting:
Scalia (Reagan)
Thomas (Bush)
Kennedy (Reagan)
Rehnquist (Reagan)

ZADVYDAS v. DAVIS
I agree his sentence was much too lenient, especially given the brutality of his crime, and the fact that many convicted of drug offenses receive stiffer penalties. However, I still disagree with the Supreme Court ruling. Unfortunately, it is what it is. Consequently, other countries will continue to exploit this idiotic law. After all, what country would welcome murderers?
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Old 03-06-2011, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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“In order to remove an illegal alien, ICE must secure travel documents which allow the alien to depart the U.S. and enter a foreign country,”

In other words, if illegal aliens commit murder in this country or any other violent crime, unless we receive authorization from their countries of origin to deport them, we are stuck with the scumbags. Regardless of one’s stance on illegal immigration, how can anyone condone this?



Free to Stay – Former Gang Member, Convicted Killer, Illegal Alien Finds His Way Back to the Streets | Revere Journal - Revere Massachusetts Newspaper
What's insane is that a country can refuse to take its own citizens. This is not ICE's fault and SCOTUS ruled correctly we can't have people locked up who have served their time indefinitely.

The USA should just load him up and drop him off in Cambodia or wherever he's from.
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Old 03-06-2011, 04:06 PM
 
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What is the solution? How do you deport someone (Cambodia in this case) if their native country won't take them? Catapult?
Parachute drop
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Old 03-07-2011, 08:12 AM
 
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Or deport them into a neighboring country of their own and they'll likely have to sneak back over their own borders as most countries aren't nearly as tolerant of illegals as we are.

Or in this case, outsource some kind of prison for these violent killers. Let them be put up in some third world prison where the living standards of the prisons aren't as lush as ours.
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