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Old 03-07-2011, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Perhaps if illegals were forced to support their children, they would postpone or limit childbirth, rather than irresponsibly having babies they know they cannot afford, and relying on taxpayers to foot the bill.

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SPRINGFIELD, Ill. • Some Illinois lawmakers believe they have found the key to solving the state's massive budget crisis: squeezing savings from the safety net supporting the state's 1.6 million welfare recipients.

Republican lawmakers recently proposed a new package of reforms — forcing drug testing for welfare recipients, sending debt collectors after those improperly receiving benefits and booting the children of illegal immigrants from the state's Medicaid rolls — aimed at cracking down on abuse within the system.
Republicans propose welfare reform as Illinois budget fix
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Old 03-07-2011, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Perhaps if illegals were forced to support their children, they would postpone or limit childbirth, rather than irresponsibly having babies they know they cannot afford, and relying on taxpayers to foot the bill.


Republicans propose welfare reform as Illinois budget fix

The loony liberal Dems will never stand for it.
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Old 03-07-2011, 07:09 PM
 
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Well according to the open-borders proponents, those who want no immigration laws of any kind, ALL the illegals only come to work hard, accept little pay, and pay taxes, pay their own way, build the economy, pay their own health care costs. They insist that no illegals are benefitting from any kind of welfare handout so as the proof is in the pudding, let's cut off all welfare handouts and see if they're right

If the open borders side really believes that illegals aren't coming to cash in on welfare handouts, certainly they should think this is fine.
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Old 03-07-2011, 07:28 PM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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The problem is that those children of illegals that are eligible for Medicaid are born here, therefore US citizens. The children of illegals that are illegally here themselves should not be eligible for Medicaid in the first place.

Even children of legal migrants have to have resided here for 5 years before they are eligible.
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Old 03-12-2011, 03:48 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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It would be nice if it happened, but the Illinois legislature is majority Democrat and has a Democrat governor.
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Old 03-12-2011, 04:01 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Wouldn't matter...thanks to the unfunded mandate that is EMTALA, they'd all just show up in the ED.
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Old 03-12-2011, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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One aspect that welfare reform supporters seem to be overlooking is the cost of starting new programs. Paying to test welfare recipients for drugs, then sending them to state-funded substance abuse treatment centers, as Sacia proposed, would cost taxpayers. Photographing LINK cardholders, printing the images on new cards and issuing them throughout the state could also have significant financial implications.
"Literally you have to take 850,000 photos," Lesser said. "The cost of that is staggering."
Again, like deportation, it's a one time payment that won't cost as much as the fraud that's being handed out on a monthly basis. Cutting off illegals will more than cover it.
Those that say stopping an illegal act will cost too much, without weighing and measuring, should be put on a list to be voted out!
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Old 03-12-2011, 10:30 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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A photo and a drug test can't possibly compare to the reoccurring costs of a welfare check.
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Old 03-12-2011, 01:04 PM
 
Location: near bears but at least no snakes
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The loony liberal Dems will never stand for it.
Well, this loony liberal Dem thinks it's about time. For their kids who were born here, they do deserve Medicaid because they are citizens but for kids who were brought into the country--NO. What business do they have getting tax payer medical benefits when they don't even belong here?

Maybe if their parents really cared about the kids, they'd take them home and build a life in their own country instead of coming here to steal from us.
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Old 03-13-2011, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Yeah...I've seen it a lot...dems and republicans can often agree on this issue.
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