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Old 03-08-2011, 12:44 PM
 
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In terms of Public Education, the mandates of the US Supreme Court decision in Plyler v. Doe specifically prohibits any actions by school officials or employees that causes a “chilling effect” on the Right to Education as affirmed in Plyler as a basic Civil Right codified by reference to the 14th Amendment to the US Constitution, which in turn is the domestic judicial and legislative implementation of Article 6 of the Universal Declaration on Human Rights (http://tucsoncitizen.com/three-sonorans/2011/03/04/arizona-educators-compact-of-non-compliance/ - broken link)
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Article 26:

* (1) Everyone has the right to education. Education shall be free, at least in the elementary and fundamental stages. Elementary education shall be compulsory. Technical and professional education shall be made generally available and higher education shall be equally accessible to all on the basis of merit.
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ARIZONA EDUCATORS COMPACT OF NON-COMPLIANCE

We are professional educators, not immigration agents. No act of the legislature will compel us to violate our professional ethics and standards by blurring that line. We cannot, therefore, comply with any law or regulation that asks us to participate in the criminalization of our students or community.
AZ SB 1407

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Requires the AZ Department of Education to collect data on students who are enrolled in school districts and cannot prove “lawful residence” in the United States
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Requires the AZ Department of Education to submit an annual report including research “on the adverse impact” of students who cannot prove lawful residence and a detailed estimate of the cost of educating non-citizen students and students who cannot prove lawful residence;
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Constitutionally Suspect: The U.S. Supreme Court held in the landmark case Plyler v. Doe, 457 U.S. 202 (1982), that primary and secondary students living in the United States cannot be denied a public education on the basis of their immigration status. This bill, however, would require all school districts throughout Arizona to determine the citizenship and immigration status of such students. The impact of the law is clear: it would strike fear and confusion among undocumented and non-citizen students and their families, deterring them from enrolling and attending public school.
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Civil Rights Concerns. The bill’s provisions include no protections for potential discrimination by officials responsible for collecting this information. Without the ability to make immigration status determinations, school districts’ attempts to implement this law will lead to inevitable racial profiling and discrimination against students based on race, ethnicity, and national origin, raising serious concerns that such a law would violate federal civil rights protections.
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This bill hinders all kids from getting the education they deserve. All kids—not only immigrants—will be asked for their papers before they can go to school. Do we really want to make it harder to get kids to go to and stay in school?
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This bill is short-sighted and robs us of future assets to our economy. We need to educate all our children to bring Arizona’s economy into the 21st century, not raise barriers to educating talented young minds.
Who will win?
Illegal invaders? Terrorist? Who will destroy America first?
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Old 03-08-2011, 12:57 PM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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AZ SB 1407

Who will win?
Illegal invaders? Terrorist? Who will destroy America first?

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Requires the AZ Department of Education to collect data on students who are enrolled in school districts and cannot prove “lawful residence” in the United States
All the bill does is require the collection of data...it in no way changes the Status Quo.
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Old 03-08-2011, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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This bill is short-sighted and robs us of future assets to our economy. We need to educate all our children to bring Arizona’s economy into the 21st century, not raise barriers to educating talented young minds.
Exactly why is there a pressing need to educate those who upon graduation cannot legally work in this country anyway?
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Old 03-08-2011, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Phoenix,Arizona
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Exactly why is there a pressing need to educate those who upon graduation cannot legally work in this country anyway?
The Democratic Party appeals to their emotions. But a vote for the Democratic Party is a vote to make America like Mexico
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Old 03-08-2011, 02:37 PM
 
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Exactly why is there a pressing need to educate those who upon graduation cannot legally work in this country anyway?


Correct!
It defeats the purpose.
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Old 03-09-2011, 09:28 AM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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Exactly why is there a pressing need to educate those who upon graduation cannot legally work in this country anyway?
The US Supreme court justices in Plyler v. Doe, did not base their decision on the question of work after education: but in their opinions, stated that these students would likely become citizens and that an educated populace is far more benefical to society than an sub-group of uneducated.
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Old 03-09-2011, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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The US Supreme court justices in Plyler v. Doe, did not base their decision on the question of work after education: but in their opinions, stated that these students would likely become citizens and that an educated populace is far more benefical to society than an sub-group of uneducated.
They also based their decision on the conditions in this country at that time, and the relatively small number of illegal alien children. At the time of their ruling, they felt that educating the children of illegal aliens would not create a hardship for the states. That is no longer true, as evidenced by the overcrowding and budget deficits created by massive illegal immigration.

Furthermore, we have NO obligation to legalize these children. Therefore, there is no guarantee, either implied or otherwise, that they will EVER become citizens.
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