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Old 03-10-2011, 06:27 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Every single recipient should be heavily investigated by IRS to determine if they have paid taxes in prior years. If so they should be jailed and fined. Every single person should also be heavily fined for clearly forging documents. If you are here illegal you have no right to work here in the first place. They should be prosecuted for doing so. After all, laws are laws and should be enforced. Right?

This entire case is ridiculous. Illegal immigrants once again demonstrate their only agenda is about what they can take from Americans. Deport them already.
Interesting tactic.
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Old 03-10-2011, 07:41 PM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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Which differs from the opinions of US Superme Court justices interpreting the US Constitution.
Which differs from comprehension and logical thought, assuming that the Supreme Court works in the interest of the legal citizens.
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Old 03-11-2011, 09:14 AM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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Which differs from comprehension and logical thought, assuming that the Supreme Court works in the interest of the legal citizens.
A reply to your contention...

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Rights of both citizens and non-citizens are protected by the US Constitution. However, there are some right specifically reserved for citizens, such as the right to a Federal job and to vote.

In actuality, the Constitution doesn't apply to "citizens," nor does it even apply to "people." It applies to the government. It tells the government what it can and can't do (the body tells the government what it can do, and the Bill of Rights tells it what it can't do).

Immigration rules are administrative ones, and are mandated by Congress, not the courts.
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Old 03-11-2011, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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A reply to your contention...


From your un-cited source. . .

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Rights of both citizens and non-citizens are protected by the US Constitution.
Given that it does not specify both legal and “illegal” non-citizens, it could be argued that foreigners here without permission are excluded from said protection. After all, illegal “non-citizens” are not granted the same rights and privileges as those legally present.
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Old 03-11-2011, 07:49 PM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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A reply to your contention...

A few citations other than those that you make up or parrot from the far left would be nice.

Of course posting the words of others instead of your own would tend to indicate that you have no real knowledge on the subject.
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Old 03-14-2011, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Madness!

When it comes to this issue, I often feel stuck in a Chinese-restaurant limbo ala Seinfeld. "Where am I?"
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Old 03-15-2011, 08:44 AM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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Which differs from comprehension and logical thought, assuming that the Supreme Court works in the interest of the legal citizens.
sorry, but you making this statement speak volumes of your knowledge...

you critisize my contention, would you please cite any Supreme court ruling which states that only citizens are entitled to equal protection under the law?

The most cited equal protection ruling was Plyler v. Doe, in which the Court struck down a Texas law which banned school funding for illegal alien children. The Court opined that by excluding illegal alien children[non-citizens] from education, was a violation of Equal protection under the law. The Court cited 14th ammendment provision:
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Article I
No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
It is evident that the 14th made a distinction between privilegaes or immunities held only by citizens, and constitutional rights afforded to all persons within its jusrisdiction. Illegal aliens are not entitled to all constitutional rights, but the core rights of protections have been consistently upheld.

In this case the deportation case and the civil rights case are before the US Second Circuit Court of Appeals in New York, which kinda confirms their constitutional right to appeal..correct?

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