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Old 03-18-2011, 08:33 PM
 
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These are good arguments.



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Old 03-18-2011, 09:32 PM
 
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No, they are lousy, idiotic arguments.
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Old 03-18-2011, 09:54 PM
 
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There are NO "good arguments" for open borders. Either the USA is a sovereign nation with laws of the land or it's not.

Period.

If it's good enough for Mexico to not have open borders then it's good enough for the USA.
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Old 03-18-2011, 10:00 PM
 
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There are NO "good arguments" for open borders. Either the USA is a sovereign nation with laws of the land or it's not.

Period.

If it's good enough for Mexico to not have open borders then it's good enough for the USA.
A state can have sovereignty with open borders. The US had open borders all the way up until the late 1800s. Peoples used to travel both ways of the border without any problems. There used to be a railway that crossed the imaginary border.
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Old 03-18-2011, 10:09 PM
 
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A state can have sovereignty with open borders. The US had open borders all the way up until the late 1800s. Peoples used to travel both ways of the border without any problems. There used to be a railway that crossed the imaginary border.
Mexico dont have an open border with Guatemala. No reason why we should with Mexico. Mex and Guate are very alike.
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Old 03-18-2011, 10:09 PM
 
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NJ and NY have different laws from each other, yet anybody from either state can visit both states or even work.
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Old 03-18-2011, 10:10 PM
 
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Mexico dont have an open border with Guatemala. No reason why we should with Mexico. Mex and Guate are very alike.

This is the US, not Mexico

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Old 03-18-2011, 10:54 PM
 
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NJ and NY have different laws from each other, yet anybody from either state can visit both states or even work.
Can the children of NY go to school in NJ or the other way around?

Can a New Yorker get benefits from New Jersey or the other way around?

Both states have basically the same rules and regulations, can that be said about Mexico and America?

Does Mexico have open borders with Guatemala?

Does Mexico treat illegals the same way illegals are treated here?

****NO TO ALL****


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Old 03-18-2011, 10:59 PM
 
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Can the children of NY go to school in NJ or the other way around?

Can a New Yorker get benefits from New Jersey or the other way around?

Both states have basically the same rules and regulations, can that be said about Mexico and America?

Does Mexico have open borders with Guatemala?

Does Mexico treat illegals the same way illegals are treated here?

****NO TO ALL****



That's different.

Residents in both states are free to move to the other if they feel. Once that is established, they can go to school in their new location.

The same should be applied on an international level.
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Old 03-18-2011, 11:09 PM
 
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Not opposed to the idea on its face.

I am opposed to other things which are tangentially related, but those things can be dealt with independently through other changes in law. Not real interested in paying for other people, in general, regardless of their nationality... so my objection applies to citizens of this country just the same as immigrants.

Doesn't necessarily mean I'm going to be hanging out a huge welcome mat inviting everyone to come to the party, but I would not enjoin them from travelling to-and-fro.

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