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Old 04-09-2011, 11:29 AM
 
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They destroy the country. In Phoenix where there is a significant Illegal alien population it has increased the crime and really hurt that city.

 
Old 04-09-2011, 11:30 AM
 
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Cause the Federal government doles out the social services to keep them going will the city benefits from their low-wage workers... its akin to slavery... but nobody cares, the elite liberals LOVE their low wage slaves, the federal government loves to appease their donors, and the illegals love to be in a country with running water and sewer...
It's even better than slavery for the cheap labor types.

The slave masters had to provide for their slaves. They had to feed them, house them, provide them whatever health care they would have.

Far much better for the cheap labor elites with illegals. They can pay them dirt. The taxpayers will provide them the free health care, food stamps, provide them free maternity hospital stays, and if they are injured in the workplace, that's up to the taxpayers. The taxpayers must provide the totally free education with the free meals for the children of illegals, and they have many many children.

The elites have it very very nice with all this taxpayer subsidized labor. Of course they don't want to pay legal wages or provide health insurance plans or pay into social security and FICA taxes for them, workman's comp.

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Old 04-09-2011, 11:34 AM
 
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It's even better than slavery for the cheap labor types.

The slave masters had to provide for their slaves. They had to feed them, house them, provide them whatever health care they would have.

Far much better for the cheap labor elites with illegals. They can pay them dirt. The taxpayers will provide them the free health care, food stamps, provide them free maternity hospital stays, and if they are injured in the workplace, that's up to the taxpayers. The taxpayers must provide the totally free education with the free meals for them.

The elites have it very very nice with all this taxpayer subsidized labor. Of course they don't want to pay legal wages or provide health insurance plans or pay into social security and FICA taxes for them, workman's comp.
I think this is true. Illegals are easily exploited, and can't go to the authorities and draw attention to themselves.
 
Old 04-09-2011, 11:37 AM
 
Location: TMI
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But the cities with sanctuary policies are doing the best, and have good economies. They also have lower unemployment.

Can you explain that?
Stereotyping, much? I am a liberal and I despise illegals, too.

It has been said, but ok.. supply/demand - you know that, right? supply -> workers willing to work for minimum wage ( illegals) or less. Demand -> dirt cheap workers. Result -> Declining wages.
 
Old 04-09-2011, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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But the cities with sanctuary policies are doing the best, and have good economies. They also have lower unemployment.

Can you explain that?
do you stay up at night or lay awake planning on what threads with no facts you will post the next day? In most cases cities with a large number of illegals also have high unemployment and more crime. Is this the fault of the illegals? Maybe not, maybe it is just due to the urban mind set, but your statement would need some strong back up to make it believable and I don't mean comments out of some liberal publication

Nita
 
Old 04-09-2011, 12:57 PM
 
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But the cities with sanctuary policies are doing the best, and have good economies. They also have lower unemployment.

Can you explain that?
What planet are you on ?
 
Old 04-09-2011, 01:03 PM
 
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But the cities with sanctuary policies are doing the best, and have good economies. They also have lower unemployment.

Can you explain that?
Even if you weren't making things up, what's the difference?

Do you believe in the sovereignty of America?
 
Old 04-09-2011, 01:07 PM
 
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I think this is true. Illegals are easily exploited, and can't go to the authorities and draw attention to themselves.
Too bad.

If they're going to break our laws, they deserve to be exploited.

I'm all for it!

Typical liberal mentality. Oh No! Someone is breaking into out nation and breaking our laws and someone is exploiting them! We must put an end to the exploitation!
 
Old 04-09-2011, 01:08 PM
 
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1) I am neither conservative, nor republican.
2) Illegal immigration isn't only damaging the economy, but destroys the society of the US:
The little town I live in, was recently declared majority hispanic. Once a middle class sanctuary, it became a ghetto.
3) Some want to divert the discussion to "racism", but that doesn't hold water. I believe that the human tsunami that washed the US in last 30 years, is not about the immigrants race, but about the magnitude of this move. Most people I know (and maybe that doesn't say much) like living in mixed neighborhoods, with people of different backgrounds, but not ghettos.
4) This massive move of population, effects society in more ways. Some employers got used to exploiting human beings as a daily practice. For example, when people are ready to work for cents, minimal wage lost its original meaning.
5) Above all, I find it weird that a country cannot control who is living within its borders. That is perhaps the first sign of sovereignty. Its even weirder that this country is considered the most powerful of all. "Immigration" advocates don't seem to have a problem with that, they argue it is "natural" among neighbors...
Try sending masses of foreigners to "countries" like Liechtenstein or Monaco and you will see what happens.

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Old 04-09-2011, 05:01 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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Do you have proof, read an article a couple months back on this issue. Not the way you have describe things, Not all sanctuary cities and there are many, are doing well. It is not so. Do you have an actual link.
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