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Old 04-11-2011, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Fed Court finds Arizona's illegal Law, yep, still illegal.

Appeals court upholds Justice challenge on Ariz. law - The Washington Post
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Old 04-11-2011, 11:40 AM
 
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Fed Court finds Arizona's illegal Law, yep, still illegal.

Appeals court upholds Justice challenge on Ariz. law - The Washington Post
Its not a bad law, it just went too far. I wouldnt mind police asking status on a serious crime like robery, or really any crime. However to just ask without proper evidence was a bad move. With Arizona losing about 20 percent of income since, it had a really negative effect on the state and scared away many states from adpoting a similar law.
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Old 04-11-2011, 11:53 AM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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Its not a bad law, it just went too far. I wouldnt mind police asking status on a serious crime like robery, or really any crime. However to just ask without proper evidence was a bad move. With Arizona losing about 20 percent of income since, it had a really negative effect on the state and scared away many states from adpoting a similar law.
The question was not if 1070 was a "good" or "bad" law, the DOJ sued on the basis that Az could not make "unauthorized presence" a State crime, circumventing established current federal immigration law...USC8,1325.
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Old 04-11-2011, 11:58 AM
 
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The question was not if 1070 was a "good" or "bad" law, the DOJ sued on the basis that Az could not make "unauthorized presence" a State crime, circumventing established current federal immigration law...USC8,1325.
Oh, for sure it was an illegal law.

But it has had amendments that no one wants to pass just because it has already been labeled a racist law. I think if they came in with a revised version instead of the full blown attempt, it would have satisfied bout sides.
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Old 04-11-2011, 07:00 PM
 
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This doesn't matter in the long run, right? It's rather obvious this is going to head to the Supreme Court.
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Old 04-12-2011, 03:42 AM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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This doesn't matter in the long run, right? It's rather obvious this is going to head to the Supreme Court.
Not nessesarily. The Ninth district court rulled that a lower court was correct in their rulling.

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The panel agreed, with one dissenter on some points, that there is sufficient evidence to believe that the blocked provisions unconstitutionally infringe on the federal government's exclusive power to make immigration laws.
The US Supreme court, could...in not considering this case, could simply state that the lower court ruled correctly.

The USSC could rule, without hearing any arguement, that the lower courts were in error and had to revisit the case.

Or the USS court could agree to hear Az's claim that the supremacy clause is unconstitutional and states have the right to write their own laws. In effect, states' rights trumps supremacy clause.

I think the first senario is the most likely to happen.
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Old 04-12-2011, 05:34 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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Fed Court finds Arizona's illegal Law, yep, still illegal.

Appeals court upholds Justice challenge on Ariz. law - The Washington Post


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The court ruled only on Boltonís order, not on whether the Arizona measure is legal
Chaulk up another FAIL for bobby. If SB 1070 is eliminated it would be a victory for illegal aliens and their supporters (which seem to include bob).

However, the law abiding loyal citizens of the USA still have allot on our side to help us prevent liberals from importing more illegals to establish a perpetual underclass that will always vote for them.

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Section 287(g)
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Old 04-12-2011, 05:47 AM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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Chaulk up another FAIL for bobby. If SB 1070 is eliminated it would be a victory for illegal aliens and their supporters (which seem to include bob).

However, the law abiding loyal citizens of the USA still have allot on our side to help us prevent liberals from importing more illegals to establish a perpetual underclass that will always vote for them.

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Section 287(g)
How can it be a victory of illegal aliens if the federal law exists. As you pointed out, Az law enforcemnet can participate, and could have participated in 287[g] all along.
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Old 04-12-2011, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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How can it be a victory of illegal aliens if the federal law exists. As you pointed out, Az law enforcemnet can participate, and could have participated in 287[g] all along.

SB1070 makes life harder for the people who you support- illegal aliens.
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