Balance the budget and have a surplus.

[SoEdible]

Originally Posted by Shinhiryuu

the arguement isnt if its right to have illegals here or not. the arguement is cost and loss. you keep saying that without benefits illegals will leave. before warfare illegals floded california, and continue to, even in states where cash warefare isnt an option or housing. food stamps and medicare are solely not keeping illegals here. mass deportation is the only way to get them out, and its too costly. also mass deportation will cripple the u.s. you need a gradual deportation which gives americans time to fill the jobs fast enough so it wont slow our economy by missing workers. it sounds easy but companies will require background checks, finger prints etc.

this is why utah wanted to experiment with illegas in their state for a temp work pass.

Actually it has been reported that it would cost more to allow all of the illegal immigrants to stay here than it would to deport them. This was released by the Department of Homeland Security itself at the request of some Congressmen.

Immigration | GOP senators signal immigration showdown - Los Angeles Times

If you look at the costs for the country and the state. It would be cheaper to build better security to reduce illegal immigration AND deport the estimated population of illegal immigrants than to just allow them to stay here.

So, letting them stay here is what is "too costly." Look at places like California, Texas, Washington or New York. They are spending more in years than the amount it takes to secure the border and deport even those who aren't "violent" and drug-related criminals.

[SoEdible]

Originally Posted by 1751texan

only legal residents can sponsor family members for citizenship. Guest workers pay federal and state taxes where applicable.

Who said anything about citizenship?

[RickDros]

Originally Posted by SoEdible

Actually it has been reported that it would cost more to allow all of the illegal immigrants to stay here than it would to deport them. This was released by the Department of Homeland Security itself at the request of some Congressmen.

Immigration | GOP senators signal immigration showdown - Los Angeles Times

If you look at the costs for the country and the state. It would be cheaper to build better security to reduce illegal immigration AND deport the estimated population of illegal immigrants than to just allow them to stay here.

So, letting them stay here is what is "too costly." Look at places like California, Texas, Washington or New York. They are spending more in years than the amount it takes to secure the border and deport even those who aren't "violent" and drug-related criminals.

Your link has nothing in the way of support of your argument, and isn't even addressing what you're talking about. The only dollar amounts listed in the article are an enumeration of the budget of Immigrations and Customs Enforcement. Further, the Senators were only asking DHS how much money they would need to deport every illegal, they were not taking the full economic impact of such a move into account.

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Originally Posted by eelezah1288

Balance the budget and have a sizable surplus by deporting illegal aliens by attrition. Nothing else need be done.


Illegal Immigration a $113 Billion a Year Drain on U.S. Taxpayers

FAIR: Illegal Immigration a $113 Billion a Year Drain on U.S. Taxpayers (http://www.fairus.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=23198&security=1601&news _iv_ctrl=1741 - broken link)
FAIR: Illegal Immigration a $113 Billion a Year Drain on U.S. Taxpayers (http://www.fairus.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=23198&security=1601&news _iv_ctrl=1741 - broken link)

That would make sense except the deficit is a lot more than $113B. Don't you think you should do some research before you make this post?