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Why is it racial profiling if Illegals are asked for identification? but we show proof everyday for many different reasons.
I am sick of people trying to make excuses for EVERYONE not having an id. just HOW LONG DO THESE MANY MILLIONS OF PEOPLE THINK THEY CAN LIVE HERE AN NOT HAVE A REAL NAME LIKE WE DO. If a cop stops a car he should see every persons ID .
Why is it racial profiling if Illegals are asked for identification? but we show proof everyday for many different reasons.
In the vast majority of cases it isn't. federal agents are allowed great leeway when dealing with illegal aliens. Since federal immigration laws are adminstrative, the constitution and congress allow federal agents great leeway in dealing with illegal aliens[susupected]. many of the same rules that appply to state and local law enforcement is not applicable to ferderal agents.
When local agencies partner with the federal government in a voluntary program like 287(g), then that LEAs must be trained on adhering to Constitutionally held rights.
In the case of Arizona, Arizona attempted to write "state immigration law" which is against the US supremacy clause and federal law. In that instance, some argued that a person could not be stoped/checked without probable cause, and some argue that local LE would use ethnicity as a reason to stop suspected illegal aliens.
The sticking point is that you should not be asked for ID by law enforcement in your normal daily functions...LEOs can stop and ask for ID when they have reason to suspect you have committed a crime or in the commission of a crime. According to the constitution, all person have the right to be secure in their persons and possessions.
Why is it racial profiling if Illegals are asked for identification? but we show proof everyday for many different reasons.
Its not. But its an effective albeit obvious strawman for the loony left to use.
Ask for ID at a voting site- RACIST, ELITIST as poor people cannot afford IDs. One wonders how they cash their checks or drive. As someone who appears foreign for their drivers license- RACIST as you picked on him for being foreign. One wonders why anyone would get a pass on what we take for granted.
I understand the tactic when a Sharpton or La Reza spews this insidious nonsense. But when run of the mill liberals parrot it with apparent seriousness, I have to wonder if they are feigning it as well or genuinly barking mad.
Why is it racial profiling if Illegals are asked for identification? but we show proof everyday for many different reasons.
Because in this PC-infested country, we must walk on eggshells, lest we offend anyone who may be here illegally. On the other hand, citizens and legal residents are routinely required to show ID. Heck, at my credit union, I even have to show my DL to deposit funds. Go figure.
Because they know they are here illegally so they have to try and come up with lame excuses as to why they should be exclude from doing what most people have done at some point in their lives: show some form of IID
This is not about race and they know it. But as soon as the race card is played, the liberals and supporters shed tears of blood and illegal aliens are made to look like victims.
In the vast majority of cases it isn't. federal agents are allowed great leeway when dealing with illegal aliens. Since federal immigration laws are adminstrative, the constitution and congress allow federal agents great leeway in dealing with illegal aliens[susupected]. many of the same rules that appply to state and local law enforcement is not applicable to ferderal agents.
When local agencies partner with the federal government in a voluntary program like 287(g), then that LEAs must be trained on adhering to Constitutionally held rights.
In the case of Arizona, Arizona attempted to write "state immigration law" which is against the US supremacy clause and federal law. In that instance, some argued that a person could not be stoped/checked without probable cause, and some argue that local LE would use ethnicity as a reason to stop suspected illegal aliens.
The sticking point is that you should not be asked for ID by law enforcement in your normal daily functions...LEOs can stop and ask for ID when they have reason to suspect you have committed a crime or in the commission of a crime. According to the constitution, all person have the right to be secure in their persons and possessions.
It doesn't matter that some argued that racial profiling would occur. What mattered is that racial profiling was prohibited as it is in all enforcement of our laws. We don't live in a perfect world where all cops follow the letter of the law even though they should. The point is why would any person legally in this country object to be being questioned anyway since they would have nothing to fear? It was all about protecting illegals from detection. Anyone with half a brain could see that.
Why is it OK that we are asked for IDs when pulled over but its not OK to ask illegals?
It's not ok. Cops can request a drivers license when you are operating a vehicle, but that's not the same as an id. 4th amendment of the Constitution requires the police to have probable cause before they can search you or your person. In other words the cops can't search you because they feel like it, they need a good reason, otherwise the search is unconstitutional.
Last edited by Savoir Faire; 04-13-2011 at 10:23 PM..
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