Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
I've implied nothing but the fact that the cases are very similar. Leland Davidson ultimately gained his U.S. citizenship through the status of his parents. The Valenzuela brothers had a U.S. citizen mother (along with their 7 siblings), and the government was said to have given the wrong forms to the family.
They even served during a defined "period of hostilities" and thought they were citizens all along. Why rehash something like a speeding ticket years later to put someone in deportation proceedings? Are the actions of the government equal in these cases?
So just what do you think the reason is for different actions being taken by our government under two "supposed" very similar scenarios then? Come out and just say it!
The Valenzuela brothers are fighting deportation from the United States, with allegations they are illegally present. If that isn't close enough to illegal immigration, I don't know what is. Why was Mr. Davidson's case so easily resolved, when the brothers have been fighting to stay in the United States for years?
I'm not bringing up anything about ethnicity, but no one has been able to tell me why there is such an illogical difference in the cases. Shouldn't the Valenzuela brothers have the same abilities to gain a Certificate of Citizenship just like Mr. Davidson?
What would be your decision for their fate?...
As children, the Valenzuela brothers, whose mother was an American-born citizen, moved to the United States as legal permanent residents. After serving in the Vietnam war, both got into trouble with the law, which they believe was a result of war-related PTSD, for which they now receive counseling. Though these crimes were committed years ago and have already been dealt with by the criminal justice system, this triggered removal proceedings against the brothers.
Only a legal citizen can join the military. NO ILLEGALS.
If a legal citizen joins the military and screws up they are deported. Once again, illegals cannot join the military so why would you post it in illegal immigration? They didn't illegally immigrate nor overstay a visa.
First off, he chose a story about a white guy and another one about 2 Hispanics brothers...To make it look like people favor whites over people from different backgrounds.
That right there says a lot about the real reason why it was posted in the illegal immigration forum vs the legal immigration forum.
Someone is unsuccessfully trying to spark "controversy".
First off, he chose a story about a white guy and another one about 2 Hispanics brothers...To make it look like people favor whites over people from different backgrounds.
That right there says a lot about the real reason why it was posted in the illegal immigration forum vs the legal immigration forum.
Someone is unsuccessfully trying to spark "controversy".
Which other "he" are you referring to then? I also edit what I am responding to, as you do. Your original post said "file" (Mr. Davidson was assisted in filing paperwork, but just like taxes, it was done in his name), so what are you talking about to say "accepted"?
Ever hear of filed and not accepted?
Provide proof of my editing your posts or we will all know you for the liar you are.
I've implied nothing but the fact that the cases are very similar. Leland Davidson ultimately gained his U.S. citizenship through the status of his parents. The Valenzuela brothers had a U.S. citizen mother (along with their 7 siblings), and the government was said to have given the wrong forms to the family.
They even served during a defined "period of hostilities" and thought they were citizens all along. Why rehash something like a speeding ticket years later to put someone in deportation proceedings? Are the actions of the government equal in these cases?
You have implied bigotry in the system. You know, racial profiling. This does seem to be your favorite argument, even when it doesn't exist (except in your own mind).
As children, the Valenzuela brothers, whose mother was an American-born citizen, moved to the United States as legal permanent residents. After serving in the Vietnam war, both got into trouble with the law, which they believe was a result of war-related PTSD, for which they now receive counseling. Though these crimes were committed years ago and have already been dealt with by the criminal justice system, this triggered removal proceedings against the brothers.
Only a legal citizen can join the military. NO ILLEGALS.
If a legal citizen joins the military and screws up they are deported. Once again, illegals cannot join the military so why would you post it in illegal immigration? They didn't illegally immigrate nor overstay a visa.
It is believed that the Valenzuela family received forms for residency, when it actually should have been for citizenship from their mother's status. Only one brother attributes PTSD as an influence on his actions. The other brother had a speeding ticket lead to questions about paying child support, all misdemeanors.
Legal Permanent Residents can join the military...
I think the Valenzuela brothers should be able to gain U.S. citizenship from the status of their parents, just like Leland Davidson did...
You have implied bigotry in the system. You know, racial profiling. This does seem to be your favorite argument, even when it doesn't exist (except in your own mind).
Others imply bigotry in the DHS system, that only Hispanics receive concessions not provided to other ethnicities...
It is believed that the Valenzuela family received forms for residency, when it actually should have been for citizenship from their mother's status. Only one brother attributes PTSD as an influence on his actions. The other brother had a speeding ticket lead to questions about paying child support, all misdemeanors.
Legal Permanent Residents can join the military...
I think the Valenzuela brothers should be able to gain U.S. citizenship from the status of their parents, just like Leland Davidson did...
So, we can FINALLY agree that illegals cannot join the military.
Quote:
Originally Posted by IBMMuseum
Others imply bigotry in the DHS system, that only Hispanics receive concessions not provided to other ethnicities...
That's odd since the majority of BP and a good portion of ICE are HISPANIC because they speak SPANISH which the majority of those entering illegally as their primary language speak. Go figger.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
