Rep. Luis Gutierrez wants Obama to grant amnesty by decree

[plwhit]

Originally Posted by 1751texan

No, He swoar an oath to uphold the US Constitution and represent all his constituents of his congressional district.

All his constituents?

Hmmm, illegal aliens are non-entities, non-citizens, they don't count.

They are Mexican citizens, they are not his constituents.

So what is an American congressman doing standing up for Mexican citizens who are living in America illegally?



Really makes you wonder where this congressman's true allegiance's are because it sure as heck doesn't sound like they are for America.

So latino voters stay home during the next election..... that's great news

[1751texan]

Originally Posted by plwhit

All his constituents?

Hmmm, illegal aliens are non-entities, non-citizens, they don't count.

They are Mexican citizens, they are not his constituents, unless he too is an illegal alien.

You are confusing citizen with constituent...

all citizens are constituents, not all constituents are citizens.

[1AngryTaxPayer]

Originally Posted by 1751texan

Simply stated, Illegal Immigration is an American problem. You have solutions to the problems, so do I, so does Rep. Gutierrez. You may not agree with his solutions, but he is offering his solutions.

Jan Brewer, Russel Pearce, The Utah legislature, Sheriff Arpaio, NumbersUSA, NCLR, all have a right to fight for their solutions to be heard and implemented.

Gov. Jan Brewer and Russel Pearce just showed-off over a recent Immigration omnibus bill, which failed in the AZ senate. Both Brewer and Pearce would by any means be viewed as staunch Pro-active Immigraion reformers...on the same side. Yet they disagreed.

Even these two reformers[at least one of them] have realized...all or nothing will not work.

In a currently running thread, on Presidential canidates and their stances on illegal immigration, one thing was really evident to me...of the 12 issue topics by which the candidates were reated...the missing issue was deportation. Mass deportation was not even a topic.

An "All or nothing" stance most often yields nothing.

No, it's not just an American problem. Even Mexico deals with it and quite harshly too. Maybe it's time we look at what other Countries do.

[plwhit]

Originally Posted by 1751texan

You are confusing citizen with constituent...

all citizens are constituents, not all constituents are citizens.

As I said illegal aliens are non-entities, non-citizens and as far as I'm concerned non-people.

I don't see anywhere in the definition of constituent that would cover illegal aliens

con·stit·u·ent

noun \-wənt, -ənt\Definition of CONSTITUENT

1: one who authorizes another to act as agent : principal

2: a member of a constituency

3: an essential part : component, element

4: a structural unit of a definable syntactic, semantic, or phonological category that consists of one or more linguistic elements (as words, morphemes, or features) and that can occur as a component of a larger construction


Since illegal aliens have no rights who are they going to authorize?

They are not a legally a member of anything American other than being inmates of American prisons...

They are not an essential part of anything American..