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Old 04-24-2011, 07:28 PM
 
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What I never understood about ILLEGAL LAW BREAKING CRIMINALS being caught, is the immense pity party..."Oh, he has a wife and children here, and a house, and he is a good person...blah,blah, BS"...

Do we do that when rapists are caught, or thieves, or any other type of CRIMINALS are caught? Do we justify their ILLEGAL acts, and sugar coat them as nice guys???

ILLEGALS are CRIMINALS. Trespassing, lying, and stealing identies. They do a myriad of illegal acts, crossing the boarder is just the first in a string of many....

Yet, our spineless government continues to look the other way, even when these CRIMINALS are caught!!!!

When will anyone stop this?!
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Old 04-24-2011, 11:22 PM
 
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Our corrupt government doesn't care about the illegals being here as long as the government leaders get their money (and their cronies) stashed in the bank for later.
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Old 04-25-2011, 07:24 AM
 
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Alaska cop found to be illegal immigrant: prosecutors | Reuters



I guess being a cop is now one of those "jobs Americans won't do"......
It is simply amazing to me when you read the pro-illegal forums that they are singing this cop's praises. It matters not to them that he committed I.D. fraud to gain employment and is here illegally in our country. What kind of Americans are these?
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Old 04-26-2011, 05:42 AM
 
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It is simply amazing to me when you read the pro-illegal forums that they are singing this cop's praises. It matters not to them that he committed I.D. fraud to gain employment and is here illegally in our country. What kind of Americans are these?
Yesterday, I watched a guy on TV defend this crook. How can they trust him to uphold the law after realizing he is a fraud and an ID thief, and most likely has violated other laws as well? He certainly won’t arrest another illegal. He is pleading “not guilty” and will no doubt use Flores-Figueroa to escape prosecution. After all, he didn’t realize the ID belonged to a “real” person.
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Old 04-26-2011, 07:35 AM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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For those that still dont understand the meaning of The US supreme court rulling Flores-Figurueroa v. the United States...The USSC simply rulled unanimously that

If a defendent[anyone] was charged with "Identity Theft" and not "Identy fraud" [two separate offenses, two different charges] that a prosecutor must be able to show that a defendant knew that the identification he used actually belonged to another person.

So the prosecutor can charge the ex-cop with either IDT or IDF depending on what he can prove.

F-F v. US... is not a get out of jail card, even though it is still erronously protrayed that way.
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Old 04-26-2011, 07:42 AM
 
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Yesterday, I watched a guy on TV defend this crook. How can they trust him to uphold the law after realizing he is a fraud and an ID thief, and most likely has violated other laws as well? He certainly won’t arrest another illegal. He is pleading “not guilty” and will no doubt use Flores-Figueroa to escape prosecution. After all, he didn’t realize the ID belonged to a “real” person.
This guy broke the law to become a law enforcement officer.
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Old 04-26-2011, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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For those that still dont understand the meaning of The US supreme court rulling Flores-Figurueroa v. the United States...The USSC simply rulled unanimously that

If a defendent[anyone] was charged with "Identity Theft" and not "Identy fraud" [two separate offenses, two different charges] that a prosecutor must be able to show that a defendant knew that the identification he used actually belonged to another person.

So the prosecutor can charge the ex-cop with either IDT or IDF depending on what he can prove.

F-F v. US... is not a get out of jail card, even though it is still erronously protrayed that way.
It is indeed a "get out of jail" card for illegals. No one should be absolved of ID theft, SSN or otherwise, simply by claiming they didn’t know the ID they were fraudulently using belonged to an actual person. The law is a travesty, and anyone with an ounce of integrity would realize this. Watch this guy plead Flores-Figueroa, and watch him walk. That is, if they even charge him with any form of ID theft. To my knowledge, his only charge is passport fraud.
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Old 04-26-2011, 11:52 AM
 
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It is indeed a "get out of jail" card for illegals. No one should be absolved of ID theft, SSN or otherwise, simply by claiming they didn’t know the ID they were fraudulently using belonged to an actual person. The law is a travesty, and anyone with an ounce of integrity would realize this. Watch this guy plead Flores-Figueroa, and watch him walk. That is, if they even charge him with any form of ID theft. To my knowledge, his only charge is passport fraud.
It not what the defendent claims...its what the procecutor can prove.

Are you saying that if a procecutor can prove Identity Theft...if an illegal claims he didnt know the identy was an actual persons, he gets off?
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Old 04-26-2011, 12:06 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Interesting read

2009 Supreme Court Decision: Illegal Aliens Not Guilty of Identity Theft? - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ac/20101221/us_ac/7451598_2009_supreme_court_decision_illegal_aliens _not_guilty_of_identity_theft - broken link)
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