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Old 04-23-2011, 06:24 PM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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These are the only places where gay marriages are recognized:
Connecticut, Iowa, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Vermont, plus Washington, D.C. and the Coquille Indian Tribe in Oregon. Outside of these places, gay marriages do not exist. Unlike Mexico, you can marry in Mexico DF and that marriage is LEGALLY recognized in ALL of the Mexican Republic.

Mexico has always enforced its laws. That is why they don't have such a mess like we do. We didn't enforce our laws for a LONG period of time because it benefited our economy in many ways. Its not okay to enforce them at times and not others. That is why many are calling on legalization for those that have been have been affected by this. Some have children and even grandchildren here. This in my opinion is wrong. Laws should be enforced all the time and we should not have contradictory laws enforced at the same time. You don't see that in Mexico. That is what our goal should be. To have immigration laws in uniform. The longer we wait, the worse it will be to repair the damage.
It's truly amazing that we consider the US to be so progressive, yet Mexico demonstrates that it is truly more of a beacon of freedom for gay rights than the US. Zacateca is right. Marriages performed in DF are recognized throughout all 31 Mexican states. Even states in US that allow same sex civil marriage are still battling in Court to determine if their gay citizens are entitled to Federal benefits and protections. Other US states turn a cold shoulder to these gay couples much less afford them any rights. Mexico has long enforced its immigration laws for those that come across its southern border as everyone on this forum knows. Mexico is setting a good example except for letting and encouraging so many of its citizens to emigrate to the US.
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Old 04-23-2011, 06:25 PM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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Why would an Australian want to be an illegal in Mexico? This guy sounds weird if I was a Mexican immigration official I'd deport him as well.
I thought the same thing. Maybe it's much cheaper to live in Mexico and the guy is on a tight budget?
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Old 04-26-2011, 03:39 AM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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That's interesting. If only the US followed Mexico's example...

Australian Illegal Immigrant Sues Mexico - Fox News Latino

But no. Let's give them the world in a silver platter.

Let's fight those who are trying to enforce our federal laws and let's call them racist.
Is Mexico calling those that oppose illegal immigration racists?

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Let's fight those who are trying to enforce our federal laws and let's call them racist.
I read the article, did I miss where those opposed to illegal immigration are considered racists?

Since all races and ethnic groups cross the border without athorization, illegal immigration is not specific to one group nor is it inherent to any ethinic group or race. It is absolutely idiotic to equate opposition to illegal immigration as racist...since it is not an issue of race or ethnicity.
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Old 04-26-2011, 03:55 AM
 
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Its not racist to enforce laws. Its racist when you target a specific group. The two most discriminated ethnicities are very well represented in our prison system. Besides, the issue of illegal immigration does attract racists from both sides.

No one said that there aren't homophobic views in Mexico. No one said that there weren't any racists in Mexico either. It exists everywhere, in every society. Just like there are very open minded people in every society. How do you explain that in Mexico gays can actually legally get married?

I'm proud of this man for suing Mexico. We need more people to step up and do the same in Mexico. Living under those conditions in a prison, denying him of basic rights such as showers and the right to know why he was detained. Let him sue and hope this will trigger a change in the current system.
"The two most discriminated ethnicities" ????

Last I checked you usually have to commit and then be convicted of a crime to go to prison, so stop using that excuse.

Where is the outrage here about the double standard and outright HYPOCRISY of the Mexican Government and so called (Illegal Alien) "Immigrant" rights groups that readily whine and cry about US law enforcement when Mexico's actions are more extreme against immigrants both legal and illegal???
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Old 04-26-2011, 07:04 AM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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Where is the outrage here about the double standard and outright HYPOCRISY of the Mexican Government and so called (Illegal Alien) "Immigrant" rights groups that readily whine and cry about US law enforcement when Mexico's actions are more extreme against immigrants both legal and illegal???
Didn't you hear?

Mexico is allowed to enforce their immigration laws... but we aren't. Au contraire, we have to help those "poor and unfortunate" people when they cross over to this side of the fence. They are not criminals! They just want a better life!
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Old 04-26-2011, 07:10 AM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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Didn't you hear?

Mexico is allowed to enforce their immigration laws... but we aren't. Au contraire, we have to help those "poor and unfortunate" people when they cross over to this side of the fence. They are not criminals! They just want a better life!
Who's doing this allowing and disallowing?

Whos allowing Mexico to enforce thier immigration laws?

Allowing means someone[thing] other than Mexico and The US are being acted upon.

Did you really mean "allow"?
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Old 04-26-2011, 07:17 AM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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"The two most discriminated ethnicities" ????

Last I checked you usually have to commit and then be convicted of a crime to go to prison, so stop using that excuse.

Where is the outrage here about the double standard and outright HYPOCRISY of the Mexican Government and so called (Illegal Alien) "Immigrant" rights groups that readily whine and cry about US law enforcement when Mexico's actions are more extreme against immigrants both legal and illegal???
Why should any American be concerned with the laws of another nation unless those laws are bias against Americans.

Worring about another nations laws...while unable to affect change to this in this country is ridiculous.
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Old 04-26-2011, 07:59 AM
 
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Who's doing this allowing and disallowing?

Whos allowing Mexico to enforce thier immigration laws?

Allowing means someone[thing] other than Mexico and The US are being acted upon.

Did you really mean "allow"?
La Raza groups allow Mexico to have immigration laws. You certainly won't see the La Razas out protesting or demanding their own country stop with the immigration laws.

In fact when did you ever see an illegal including the dreamies insist that Mexico should have no immigration laws of any kind? It's only the USA for some reason that they demand have no borders, no immigration laws whatsoever, no limitations on how many semi-trailers loads of illegals be brougt in. But they never seem to object when their own country places some kind of laws and limits over immigration.
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Old 04-26-2011, 12:14 PM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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La Raza groups allow Mexico to have immigration laws. You certainly won't see the La Razas out protesting or demanding their own country stop with the immigration laws.

In fact when did you ever see an illegal including the dreamies insist that Mexico should have no immigration laws of any kind? It's only the USA for some reason that they demand have no borders, no immigration laws whatsoever, no limitations on how many semi-trailers loads of illegals be brougt in. But they never seem to object when their own country places some kind of laws and limits over immigration.
"La Raza" groups allow? How do they allow?

"La Raza" groups are American groups. La Raza Unida[united] movement came out of the civil rights movement of the 1970s.

I dont know all "La Raza" groups, but Im not sure NCLR or La Raza Unida advocate "no borders", "no immigration laws" or "no limitations"...but if you know of a group that does...please link their website.
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Old 04-26-2011, 08:37 PM
 
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I applaud this man. He has more guts, well, at least action than a lot of us. We should be suing a LOT of people. However, do you guys notice the group that is supporting him? It is SIN FRONTERAS ("Without Borders"). That is the group that helps illegal immigrants from places like Guatemala state their case when they come up through Mexico to stay in Mexico, but mostly and also use Mexico as a way into the United States. So, they needed this high-profile case to help their cause.

Also, notice that he was told to sleep in the lobby because he is gay. Let's see if our country (the U.S.) goes after Mexico for inhumane treatment based on sexuality. We always want to crack down on injustices all over the world, but they won't do it in this case. I also find it funny that a country that is still so backwards as Mexico when it comes to race and other things continues to get our support.
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