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Old 04-25-2011, 06:21 AM
 
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What is the purpose of U.S. immigration law? The primary purpose, I believe, is to limit the growth of the U.S. population by limiting the number of immigrants.

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Population growth at that rate will doom President Obama's stated goal of reducing oil imports by one-third in 10 years. Instead, oil imports will have to increase to meet the demands of a growing population.
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U.S. immigration law puts a numerical limit on how many immigrants are allowed to enter the country each year. The alternative to enforcing a numerical limitation would be to have no numerical limitation, and allowing everyone in the world who would like to immigrate to the U.S. in search of a better life to do so.
We can now blame illegals for $5-6 gas.

 
Old 04-25-2011, 06:46 AM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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...We can now blame illegals for $5-6 gas.
So, by your topic title, higher gas prices lead to more (lawbreaking) "gas skips"?...
 
Old 04-25-2011, 08:32 AM
 
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Yes, it's pretty ridiculous to assume that the USA can take in all the impoverished people of the world and give them all a cozy lifestyle. Only the open borders proponents believe that's a feasible policy and that we should destroy all the forests, wilderness areas, farmlands to accomodate this.

Not only that, they really believe the American taxpayer can go on picking up the tab for their extreme reproductive rates - one of the causes of their poverty back in their own country in the first place.

And also is there any environmental sense in bringing up millions of people from warm weather climates where they need no heat in the winter to areas with harsh winters where they will consume much energy just trying to stay warm? Not that they have to pay for it themselves, that's not what the dirt wages and welfare handouts are all about.
 
Old 04-25-2011, 08:56 AM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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You can blame anything you would like on illegal immigration or illegal immigrants. Does it has any basis in reality, is the key?

The reality is that new emerged markets in Asia, Africa, South America, and India vie for the same oil on the same world market as America...

Even if the world population remainded the same for the next 10 years at current world population numbers...Increased production, job growth, and demand for more oil around the world would not remain at today's world consumption. It would increase as those foreign markest continue to grow and need more oil.

Population control solving gas prices sounds like reasoned solution...but in reality, it is a over-simplified idea to solve a hugely complex issue.
 
Old 04-25-2011, 09:05 AM
 
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You can blame anything you would like on illegal immigration or illegal immigrants. Does it has any basis in reality, is the key?

The reality is that new emerged markets in Asia, Africa, South America, and India vie for the same oil on the same world market as America...

Even if the world population remainded the same for the next 10 years at current world population numbers...Increased production, job growth, and demand for more oil around the world would not remain at today's world consumption. It would increase as those foreign markest continue to grow and need more oil.

Population control solving gas prices sounds like reasoned solution...but in reality, it is a over-simplified idea to solve a hugely complex issue.
Many viable stats have been posted in here as to the negative impact that illegal aliens have on this country and that would include increased consumption and demands of everything. Is that enough reality for you?

Obviously the more population we have in THIS country the more demands there will be for everything in THIS country. I will let the rest of the world deal with their own problems. I am only concerned about the negative impacts on our own country if we don't have sensible legal immigrant numbers and deter illegal immigration to not overpopulated our own country.
 
Old 04-25-2011, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Orlando, Florida
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We have had immigration control since back in the 1700's.....

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Naturalization Act of 1790: Stipulated that "any alien, being a free white person, may be admitted to become a citizen of the United States"
1875: Supreme Court declared that regulation of US immigration is the responsibility of the Federal Government.

1882 The Chinese Exclusion Act: Prohibited certain laborers from immigrating to the United States.

1885 and 1887: Alien Contract Labor laws which prohibited certain laborers from immigrating to the United States.

1891: The Federal Government assumed the task of inspecting, admitting, rejecting, and processing all immigrants seeking admission to the U.S.

1892: On January 2, a new Federal US immigration station opened on Ellis Island in New York Harbor.

1903: This Act restated the 1891 provisions concerning land borders and called for rules covering entry as well as inspection of aliens crossing the Mexican border.

1907 The US immigration Act of 1907: Reorganized the states bordering Mexico (Arizona, New Mexico and a large part of Texas) into Mexican Border District to stem the flow of immigrants into the United States.

1917 - 1924: A series of laws were enacted to further limit the number of new immigrants. These laws established the quota system and imposed passport requirements. They expanded the categories of excludable aliens and banned all Asians except Japanese.

1924 Act: Reduced the number of US immigration visas and allocated them on the basis of national origin.

1940 The Alien Registration Act: Required all aliens (non-U.S. citizens) within the United States to register with the Government and receive an Alien Registration Receipt Card (the predecessor of the "Green Card").
1950 Passage of the Internal Security Act: Rendered the Alien Registration Receipt Card even more valuable. Immigrants with legal status had their cards replaced with what generally became known as the "green card" (Form I-151).

1952 Act: Established the modern day US immigration system. It created a quota system which imposes limits on a per-country basis. It also established the preference system that gave priority to family members and people with special skills.

1968 Act: Eliminated US immigration discrimination based on race, place of birth, sex and residence. It also officially abolished restrictions on Oriental US immigration.

1976 Act: Eliminated preferential treatment for residents of the Western Hemisphere.

1980 Act: Established a general policy governing the admission of refugees.

1986 Act: Focused on curtailing illegal US immigration. It legalized hundred of thousands of illegal immigrants. The 1986 Immigration Act is commonly know as the 1986 Immigration Amnesty. It also introduced the employer sanctions program which fines employers for hiring illegal workers. It also passed tough laws to prevent bogus marriage fraud.

1990 Act: Established an annual limit for certain categories of immigrants. It was aimed at helping U.S. businesses attract skilled foreign workers; thus, it expanded the business class categories to favor persons who can make educational, professional or financial contributions. It created the Immigrant Investor Program.

USA Patriot Act 2001: Uniting and Strengthening America by providing appropriate tools required to intercept and obstruct terrorism.
Creation of the USCIS 2003: As of March 1, 2003, the US immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) becomes part of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). The department’s new U.S. Citizenship and US immigration Services (USCIS) function is to handle US immigration services and benefits, including citizenship, applications for permanent residence, non-immigrant applications, asylum, and refugee services. US immigration enforcement functions are now under the Department's Border and Transportation Security Directorate, known as the Bureau of US immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE).
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I agree we need programs/laws....but to blame one group of immigrants for all our financial woes seems really off track. Our problems are in our state/national government leaders....not in people jumping a fence with a backpack.
 
Old 04-25-2011, 09:29 AM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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Many viable stats have been posted in here as to the negative impact that illegal aliens have on this country and that would include increased consumption and demands of everything. Is that enough reality for you?

Obviously the more population we have in THIS country the more demands there will be for everything in THIS country. I will let the rest of the world deal with their own problems. I am only concerned about the negative impacts on our own country if we don't have sensible legal immigrant numbers and deter illegal immigration to not overpopulated our own country.
sure there have be lots of "viable" stats posted on "the negative impact" of IA on this country...but the topic: "giving kids of IA citizenship...blah,blah, blah $5-6 a gal gas". Or is it?

If you wish to discuss "the sensible legal immigrant numbers and deter illegal immigration to not over populate our own country"...that is a different topic. Thats mixing legal and illegal immigration for the purpose of population control.

Is this thread's discussion population control or giving children of IAs citizenship, or Illegal aliens causing $5-6 gas?

y'all decide
 
Old 04-25-2011, 10:14 AM
 
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So, by your topic title, higher gas prices lead to more (lawbreaking) "gas skips"?...
Every illegal in this country uses oil in one way or another.
 
Old 04-25-2011, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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No, we can blame greed for our current gas prices. However, the presence of millions of illegals naturally increases our gas consumption.

As for the OP, yes, if we legalize the children of illegal aliens, we will be rewarding lawlessness, as well as continuing to incentivize illegal immigration.
 
Old 04-25-2011, 10:16 AM
 
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You can blame anything you would like on illegal immigration or illegal immigrants. Does it has any basis in reality, is the key?

The reality is that new emerged markets in Asia, Africa, South America, and India vie for the same oil on the same world market as America...

Even if the world population remainded the same for the next 10 years at current world population numbers...Increased production, job growth, and demand for more oil around the world would not remain at today's world consumption. It would increase as those foreign markest continue to grow and need more oil.

Population control solving gas prices sounds like reasoned solution...but in reality, it is a over-simplified idea to solve a hugely complex issue.
Every illegal uses some form of energy one way or another.
That adds to the imports we need in this country which in turn contributes to our deficit.
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