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Unread 04-28-2011, 06:06 AM
 
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Of course he's against it.

Maybe he should reread the oath that he took.
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Unread 04-28-2011, 06:06 AM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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Since Obama ordered the Federal enforcement people to not enforce the law.
It is sad when people have to take matters into their own hands because this clown of a president won't enforce the laws.

Same happened here in Massachusetts. A local Sheriff is enforcing a law that was passed last year but never went into "effect" officially.
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Unread 04-28-2011, 08:07 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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There is no state, other than Arizona, that has pass a law which makes it a state crime to be in "the State"[Arizona] without authorization/documentation.

Other laws like...stopping to pick up someone on the side of the road, or not being able to hire someone outside a Home Depot effect all people..citizen included and are not immigration laws.

If you know of another state that has passed a law, stating being in that state without authorization is a state crime, please let me know.

Regardless if it is one state or twenty...if the 9th circuit ruling stands, Arizona or any other state will have to follow the US constitution and not write it's own[state] immigration laws that conflict with the supremacy of US Immigration law and the US Constitution.
Then you are saying that Obama and the federal government will also have to start following the Constitution and the laws already on the books? Like they swore to do as they took the oath of office?

From the history of the Obama gang, this isn't going to happen and your defense of their inaction in enforcing the laws and actions to deny the will of the people shows your support of them. Making all your arguments highly suspicious.
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Unread 04-28-2011, 08:11 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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There have been state immigration bills that dont benefit illegal aliens that President Obama did not criticise. When New Mexico's Governor signed to end the privilege of DLs for illegal aliens...Obama didnt criticise that. Nor did he when Colorado did not extend in-state tuition rates to illegal alien students. Or any of the other state legislation dening or rescinding benefits to aliens.

Cherrypicking...
Yes, your are. Not criticizing and embracing basically meaningless laws are two vastly different things. If the illegals were not encouraged to be here in the first place (by Obamas' lack of legal action against them) none of the presently purposed immigration laws would be necessary.
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Unread 04-28-2011, 08:14 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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Im trying to understand your meaning. Are you saying it is not an immigration issue because illegals are excluded from the state privileges of DL's and In-state tuition rates?

Is it an immigration issue if a state allows driver's lincences to illegas and in-state tuition rates to IA students?
Are you saying that any law which you can stretch to involve illegals, regardless of their conduct, is an immigration laws? You know, like murder and rape?

Sure am glad you have no power in the law.
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Unread 04-28-2011, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Then do something about it Obama. Maybe you'll get some circulation and feeling back to your thumbs if you would quit sitting on them. He is doing a good job finger pointing though.
He's doing something alright, circumventing the will of the people. Lamar Smith needs to drag the Obama admin. into the House to explain themselves.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/27/us....html?src=recg
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Unread 04-28-2011, 07:30 PM
 
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Obama is Okay with sanctuary cities say something about that.
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Unread 04-28-2011, 07:44 PM
 
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Since Obama ordered the Federal enforcement people to not enforce the law.
Funny how these deaths are ignored.
There are many on this site highlighted just one below.

CRIME VICTIMS OF ILLEGAL ALIENS

[SIZE=1][SIZE=2] In another case of justice denied, the murderer of Phoenix high school student Tanee Natividad merely crossed the border into Mexico to escape law enforcement. A local television station was able to track down the murderer in a bar just a few miles across the border without much effort. Max LaMadrid has no reason to hide because the Mexican government actually helps violent criminals escape American justice. According to Arizona Attorney General Janet Napolitano, action by the Mexican supreme court making it more difficult to extradite criminals has "created an incentive for people to flee into Mexico as a safe harbor." At one time, Mexico would not extradite criminals who might be subject to the death penalty; the Mexican court recently extended this "protection" to any Mexican who might receive a life sentence (http://www.kcet.org/life_times/transcripts/200205/20020531.htm - broken link), thereby giving a free pass to rapists, kidnappers and child molesters. In fact, the investigating reporter found 100 cases of violent criminals from the Phoenix area escaping into Mexico in just the last few years. Meanwhile, the grieving family of 16-year-old Tanee gets no justice — like thousands of others in the southwest. [/SIZE][/SIZE]


Crime victims of illegal aliens



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Unread 04-28-2011, 10:30 PM
 
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Since when did the local police now become Immigration agents?
You dont need an immigration agent to arrest an illegal. If they don't have a selective service card or registration number that alone is a federal offence and any cop can arrest a federal lawbreaker my man.Once they get past the border you dont see many immigration cops do you? Well thats when the local cops can do their jobs....Cops have a right to ask people for a viable ID..If a person doesn't have it THEN questions about his alien status is 100% in order....
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Unread 04-29-2011, 06:11 AM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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Are you saying that any law which you can stretch to involve illegals, regardless of their conduct, is an immigration laws? You know, like murder and rape?

Sure am glad you have no power in the law.
Your statement makes absoutly no sense...

I dont know what "stretching a law" means. A Law just is.

This is very simple. The poster said that not granting a state privilege to an illegal...such as DLs and in-state tuition rates in not an immigration issue...[ I assume because the illegals are not eligible in some states for this benefit{the poster did not quailfy that point}]

I asked the poster, that if a state makes illegals eligible for DLs and college tuition rates...then is that an immigration issue or an eligibility issue? To which the poster or anyone else has yet answer.

How murder and rape equates to state granted privileges and benefits...you are just going to have to inform me...cuz I just dont see a connection.
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