U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies > Illegal Immigration
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 05-03-2011, 08:25 AM
 
Location: San Diego
32,798 posts, read 30,025,534 times
Reputation: 17682

Advertisements

Great idea

A Cop yelling, "Come out with your hands up!" will now take about 30 minutes to read a script of all 500 World languages.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 05-03-2011, 08:29 AM
 
2,113 posts, read 2,241,231 times
Reputation: 1758
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1AngryTaxPayer View Post
Great idea

A Cop yelling, "Come out with your hands up!" will now take about 30 minutes to read a script of all 500 World languages.
500 is not needed. Most groups of immigrants will attempt to learn English. They're just not the ones being catered to.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-03-2011, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Illinois...for now
108 posts, read 134,257 times
Reputation: 55
Quote:
Originally Posted by chicagonut View Post
What? How in the world are children going to be burned alive or brutally murdered because they can't speak 2 languages? Most of our own American children only speak one language and that is English.
Our American children live in America, where last time I checked we speak English. If my children were to travel to / live in a country that was not English speaking I would expect them to learn the language where they are going as well as English.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-03-2011, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Jacurutu
5,302 posts, read 4,009,391 times
Reputation: 601
Quote:
Originally Posted by malamute View Post
Americans learn more Spanish for a 1 week vacation in Cancun than many immigrants will learn of English after 20 years of living here...
This is a very unrealistic comparison, especially with Cancun primarily being a tourist spot. Americans have already learned how to say "margarita", and their standard way of trying to determine if someone speaks English is to repeat the phrase louder and slower. The United States, despite the origins of its peoples, tends to be one of the worst linguistically.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-03-2011, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
21,019 posts, read 15,229,299 times
Reputation: 11767
Quote:
Originally Posted by malamute View Post
That shows the problem with immigration today and not just illegal but legal too - instead of attracting the brightest, most able immigrants, we're now bringing in those who are incapable of learning English, unwilling to assimilate and adapt.
No, they are attracting the brightest, most able immigrants who happen to possess a skill (another language) that they feel they need to sucessfully police their city. Do you honestly believe that these recruits will not or cannot also speak English? Really?



Quote:
Originally Posted by malamute View Post
Immigration is now about making us the flophouse of the world and it's only about money and welfare handouts, no desire to fit in or learn.
Right - that's why the NYPD is recruiting around the world, to bring people here to put them on welfare.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-03-2011, 11:42 AM
 
14,307 posts, read 11,144,640 times
Reputation: 2130
Quote:
Originally Posted by TigerLily24 View Post
No, they are attracting the brightest, most able immigrants who happen to possess a skill (another language) that they feel they need to sucessfully police their city. Do you honestly believe that these recruits will not or cannot also speak English? Really?





Right - that's why the NYPD is recruiting around the world, to bring people here to put them on welfare.
Yeah, that makes sense import foreigners to take jobs from Americans so they can serve legal or illegal immigrant communities who refuse to assimilate to our language.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-03-2011, 12:30 PM
 
Location: North Texas
23,599 posts, read 31,135,299 times
Reputation: 26651
Quote:
Originally Posted by IBMMuseum View Post
This is a very unrealistic comparison, especially with Cancun primarily being a tourist spot. Americans have already learned how to say "margarita", and their standard way of trying to determine if someone speaks English is to repeat the phrase louder and slower. The United States, despite the origins of its peoples, tends to be one of the worst linguistically.
That is the case in pretty much every major English-speaking country on Earth. And if you think we're bad, you ought to see the British.

Why is this the case?

Because English is the closest thing we have to a universal language on this planet. It is not the language with the most speakers, but it is the most widely-spoken language (there is a difference). We already speak English, so it is not vital for us to learn another one. Hence, we don't. I speak several languages fluently, by the way.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-03-2011, 01:40 PM
 
959 posts, read 1,113,890 times
Reputation: 363
Quote:
Originally Posted by IBMMuseum View Post
A legal immigrant isn't required to have any English language skills to be admitted to the United States. They aren't required to eventually naturalize (and if they do while being elderly, the language requirement is waived). Is that easy enough to understand?

Most definitely the Americans I have seen fail at spoken and written English are not "Anchor Babies"...

Really because in the 21st century I have never met any American born Non Hispanic Whites who don't know how to speak English, and can only speak the language of their French, German, Polish, Russian, or Italian ancestors.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-03-2011, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Dalton Gardens
2,798 posts, read 5,360,350 times
Reputation: 1570
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDGeek View Post
That is the case in pretty much every major English-speaking country on Earth. And if you think we're bad, you ought to see the British.

Why is this the case?

Because English is the closest thing we have to a universal language on this planet. It is not the language with the most speakers, but it is the most widely-spoken language (there is a difference). We already speak English, so it is not vital for us to learn another one. Hence, we don't. I speak several languages fluently, by the way.
I can verify this from personal experience of living in the UK. The British have a huge Muslim population who insist on speaking their native languages and the British are fighting to have this stopped because some schools want to teach children to speak Muslim languages. There are large sections of the UK where signs can be seen in the various Muslim languages. France is just across the sea, yet the Brits do not speak French.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-03-2011, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Colorado
10,017 posts, read 16,690,837 times
Reputation: 2086
Quote:
Originally Posted by malamute View Post
All other immigrants had not problem learning the language of this country.

It's gotten way past absurd. It's now all about bringing in the least intelligent, the least capable of learning and forcing Americans to assimilate to their culture since they are unable of assimilating with ours.
One set from Germany, over in early 40's learned English quickly, with dedication. Second came over much earlier from Ireland, mid 1700's spoke Gaelic and according to some journals that my grandmother had, one of my relatives was even trying to write in English, a feat that well,,, was hard to read, but they were very determined even though they were treated like crap. I see NO real determination or effort from these illegals to learn our language.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies > Illegal Immigration
Similar Threads
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6.

2005-2018, Advameg, Inc.

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top