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Old 05-03-2011, 04:00 PM
 
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Because these other immigrant groups you mention are intelligent enough to learn English.
They are also more willing to integrate, it seems.

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Old 05-03-2011, 04:03 PM
 
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Same here, I should go in yelling in German about how they are discriminating against us for not having more signs in different languages!LOL
You know how to speak German ? Most German Americans I know do not know how to speak the language of their ancestors. Same thing for Italian Americans and French/Cajun Americans.
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Old 05-03-2011, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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You know how to speak German ? Most German Americans I know do not know how to speak the language of their ancestors. Same thing for Italian Americans and French/Cajun Americans.

Well between my grandparents, who came over from German during the war, and my desire to go there one day, I took the time to learn it. Wasn't easy, but I did it. Same with Gaelic, before she died my moms mom taught me some, I had to get books to learn more, since hardly no one speaks it anymore. My older son who is in college learned how to speak German as well, but in school.
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Old 05-03-2011, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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One set from Germany, over in early 40's learned English quickly, with dedication. Second came over much earlier from Ireland, mid 1700's spoke Gaelic and according to some journals that my grandmother had, one of my relatives was even trying to write in English, a feat that well,,, was hard to read, but they were very determined even though they were treated like crap. I see NO real determination or effort from these illegals to learn our language.
Ouch, that is right at the start of WWII for your German side (both World Wars forced German heritage out in some areas afterwards, although Teddy Roosevelt was actually complaining about the Germans towards the end of his life). The main Irish mass came in a 15 year period from 1845 to 1860 (1870 was the peak of the foreign-born, with a third of that 15% born in Ireland, and total foreign-born workforce of 20%). Of course there was still immigration from those same European countries later (a number of my ancestors, but a couple lines were here earlier) at lower rates.

My wife helped a boy that primarily spoke Gaelic in a program at the local grade school. Both of them learning more English at the same time. If he is anything like our kids, he will be doing fine by now. He just needed someone to provide the attention required.
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Old 05-03-2011, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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Ouch, that is right at the start of WWII for your German side (both World Wars forced German heritage out in some areas afterwards, although Teddy Roosevelt was actually complaining about the Germans towards the end of his life). The main Irish mass came in a 15 year period from 1845 to 1860 (1870 was the peak of the foreign-born, with a third of that 15% born in Ireland, and total foreign-born workforce of 20%). Of course there was still immigration from those same European countries later (a number of my ancestors, but a couple lines were here earlier) at lower rates.

My wife helped a boy that primarily spoke Gaelic in a program at the local grade school. Both of them learning more English at the same time. If he is anything like our kids, he will be doing fine by now. He just needed someone to provide the attention required.
My grandmother lost most her family in the camps, they were accused of being Jewish sympathizers and hiding them ( which they did both), if my dad and his brother and two sisters had not been snuck out earlier, I wouldn't be here.

Gaelic is a beautiful language, too bad you don't hear it hardly anymore. My family from Ireland came before the mass migration, but was still looked down upon. Many went back home.
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Old 05-03-2011, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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My grandmother lost most her family in the camps, they were accused of being Jewish sympathizers and hiding them ( which they did both), if my dad and his brother and two sisters had not been snuck out earlier, I wouldn't be here...
Mob mentality, and the idea of societal scapegoats, can be dangerous things...

Where is that episode of the Outer Limits, written by Sam Egan, with Saul Rubinik, both of them with parents affected by the Holocaust?...

It was speculated by some family that one of my G-G-Grandfathers was Jewish, based purely on his habit of tailoring in the evenings, and being physically diminutive (yeah, kind of silly)...

No way to tell now, with the purge of records in Germany later...

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...Gaelic is a beautiful language, too bad you don't hear it hardly anymore...
I hope the boy holds on to it. My youngest is loosing her ability to talk with her Grandmother. Ironically she will take her original tongue as a second language next school year, maybe that will help a little.
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Old 05-03-2011, 06:28 PM
 
Location: Native Floridian, USA
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Is everyone on this board making their voice heard in protest, other than carping on a message board ? Lets make a difference. Sometimes, I give up because I think it is no use but, then I make myself keep speaking out, writing my legislators, newspapers, whatever.....
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Old 05-03-2011, 09:02 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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Is everyone on this board making their voice heard in protest, other than carping on a message board ? Lets make a difference. Sometimes, I give up because I think it is no use but, then I make myself keep speaking out, writing my legislators, newspapers, whatever.....
Check and see what goes on at NumbersUSA | For Lower Immigration Levels - For Lower Immigration Levels

Or, first check my location. Then click the link below and see who I fax an call on a weekly basis....just for starters.

http://www.numbersusa.com/content/my/action/board
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Old 05-03-2011, 11:09 PM
 
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In Texas they are the majority now but still labeled "minority".
That's funny, the U.S. Census Bureau seems to disagree with you:

Texas QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau

Their numbers show the hispanic population at 36.9%.

In anyone's book 36.9% is still labeled "minority".

And yes mkfarnam I regularly send letters to my senators, congressmen and local politicians........
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Old 05-03-2011, 11:54 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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...And yes mkfarnam I regularly send letters to my senators, congressmen and local politicians........
The topic I started was closed, but would have shown that you are civicly mistaken on your quote: You have two (Federal) Senators, but only one Congressperson when your Senators are separately identified...
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