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Old 05-12-2011, 12:27 PM
 
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So what if it turns out that they were US citizens? Would it still be ok to shoot first and ask later?
Every war will have a certain amount of acceptable collateral damage.

 
Old 05-12-2011, 12:28 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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In an episode of Criminal Minds (or CSI xxx, don't remember, but I guess it was Criminal Minds), there was also a hateful American who simply shot Hispanics near the border... And I thought at least that was just a TV program
 
Old 05-12-2011, 12:37 PM
 
Location: 3rd rock from the sun
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Sounds like some inconsistencies in the story.

Velez implies the rancher shot them while in their vehicle. But yet says 'after his father jumped on top'.


So, did something change while the camera was rolling?
"The property owner had pulled up behind Velez and his dad and opened fire. The pair rolled out of the truck, begging him to stop as the rancher yelled out instructions."
 
Old 05-12-2011, 12:40 PM
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Exactly. We're at war with illegals. In a war, your shoot first and ask questions later.
In a civilized society, you shoot an unarmed person you go to prison. How racist do you have to be to advocate the murder of unarmed people who at worst case are committing a low level misdemeanor crime. This rancher is a nativist scumbag that deserves a good daily butt rape while he rots in a cell.
 
Old 05-12-2011, 12:45 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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A lot of assumptions on this thread.
 
Old 05-12-2011, 12:45 PM
 
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In a civilized society, you shoot an unarmed person you go to prison. How racist do you have to be to advocate the murder of unarmed people who at worst case are committing a low level misdemeanor crime. This rancher is a nativist scumbag that deserves a good daily butt rape while he rots in a cell.

The illegals declared war on us. Things happen in war.

If these Hispanic-"Americans" really are here legally, then they're pretty stupid. If they didn't want to get shot as illegals trespassing in our country, they should have called the local landowners in advance and asked for permission to be in the area.
 
Old 05-12-2011, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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It sounds like they were simply lost. Last I checked getting lost on a piece of property doesn't warrant being shot at and possibly killed.

My guess is this rancher had been hoping for a long time for the chance to gun down some Hispanics, regardless of what they were doing.

Then again you're just trolling.
 
Old 05-12-2011, 12:57 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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The illegals declared war on us. Things happen in war.

If these Hispanic-"Americans" really are here legally, then they're pretty stupid. If they didn't want to get shot as illegals trespassing in our country, they should have called the local landowners in advance and asked for permission to be in the area.
That's a ridiculous way of thinking, especially in the 21st century.
You can't decide who has declared war on you based on who you want out of your country and thus shoot.
 
Old 05-12-2011, 12:57 PM
 
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The illegals declared war on us. Things happen in war.

If these Hispanic-"Americans" really are here legally, then they're pretty stupid. If they didn't want to get shot as illegals trespassing in our country, they should have called the local landowners in advance and asked for permission to be in the area.
Absurd
 
Old 05-12-2011, 12:57 PM
 
Location: John & Ken-ville
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If you're trespassing on private property you take your consequences.
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