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Old 01-30-2015, 07:28 PM
 
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If you want to solve the undocumented worker problem, arrest the employers and have all the undocumented workers join a union.

Right now, undocumented aliens are no better off than the "gastarbeiter," the slave workers in WWII Germany. They live in fear, their employer can abuse them financially, sexually and physically with impunity, they do work for pay no American will, and they pay taxes.

They are responsible for $3 to $5 billion of California's Gross State Product, and I doubt it's different in any other state. They contribute.

If you want them out of your community, just offer to do their job for the same pay. Their boss will be happy to hire a white Christian who speaks his language.
Please stop it. NO 1 forced the illegal aliens to come to the US, that's a full on insult to those people who were imported by Hitler to work for free and many died.
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Old 01-30-2015, 07:30 PM
 
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If you want to solve the undocumented worker problem, arrest the employers and have all the undocumented workers join a union.

Right now, undocumented aliens are no better off than the "gastarbeiter," the slave workers in WWII Germany. They live in fear, their employer can abuse them financially, sexually and physically with impunity, they do work for pay no American will, and they pay taxes.

They are responsible for $3 to $5 billion of California's Gross State Product, and I doubt it's different in any other state. They contribute.

If you want them out of your community, just offer to do their job for the same pay. Their boss will be happy to hire a white Christian who speaks his language.
No such thing as an "undocumented worker or alien" in immigration law. They are illegal aliens. I agree that the employers need to be held accountable by implementing e-verify in every workplace. Those not in compliance should be punished severely. Lawbreakers should live in fear. Of course no American will work for less than fair pay so what is the point? Illegal aliens don't pay in enough taxes to cover their social costs. They cost us billions in tax dollars annually. They aren't contributors they are takers.

What's with the white Christian remark and what does language have to do with it? Are you not aware that Americans are of all races, skin colors and religions? Our nation's language is English. There is no way that an American should be denied most jobs because they don't speak a foreign language.
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Old 01-30-2015, 11:53 PM
 
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Illegals have no business being in this country, let alone working.

They are parasites who take far, far more than they give.

Hmmm...mentioning Nazi Germany. You invoked Godwin's Law. You lose. Big time.
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Old 01-31-2015, 02:27 AM
 
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
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If you want to solve the undocumented worker problem, arrest the employers and have all the undocumented workers join a union.

Right now, undocumented aliens are no better off than the "gastarbeiter," the slave workers in WWII Germany. They live in fear, their employer can abuse them financially, sexually and physically with impunity, they do work for pay no American will, and they pay taxes.

They are responsible for $3 to $5 billion of California's Gross State Product, and I doubt it's different in any other state. They contribute.

If you want them out of your community, just offer to do their job for the same pay. Their boss will be happy to hire a white Christian who speaks his language.
Ahem, they are partly responsible for draining California's public assistance programs, the rise in crime, the closing of six hospitals in the LA area because the hospitals went broke, ranking California number 46 in its public school system (we were #1 when I attended high school), stealing identifications, driving with no insurance (ever been hit by an illegal alien?), gang members, ad in finitim.

I am so sick of hearing that illegal aliens "do the work no one else will." Before the invasion, that work was done by teen-agers, and we got along fine. Time and time again, studies and reports have come out that show illegal aliens take more than they give... unless you count the $22 billion a year they send home!

I don't understand why pro-illegal alien bleeding hearts are so adamant that it is OK for our laws to be broken to import poverty. The U.S. has immigration laws in place that are required to be followed instead of wringing our collective hands over a "broken immigration policy." All that's broken is we are not following the laws already on the books, which are generous compared to most countries.

What is so difficult about following the law?

BTW, comparing the U.S. To Nazi Germany is despicable and uncalled for.
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Old 01-31-2015, 02:28 AM
 
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Right now, undocumented aliens are no better off than the "gastarbeiter," the slave workers in WWII Germany.
"Gastarbeiter" means "guest worker." The slave workers in Nazi Germany were not guests. They were forced to work in Germany.

The term "Gastarbeiter" refers to the Turks who were invited to work in Germany long after WW II when Germany had a labor shortage.

Just thought I'd point that out, if you're actually interested in facts. (doubtful)

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They are responsible for $3 to $5 billion of California's Gross State Product, and I doubt it's different in any other state. They contribute.
Not really.

They are doing jobs that able-bodied legal U.S. citizens on unemployment and welfare would have to do if we cut them off and made them work for a living.

They also add to the size of our labor force even though we have high unemployment. More workers chasing fewer jobs equals higher unemployment, lower wages and more welfare.

They get free public education and free emergency medical care by law -- paid for by the taxpayers.

And most of them work "under the table" so they pay no federal income, state income or social security/Medicare taxes. At most, they pay sales taxes. They are a drain on our society.

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If you want them out of your community, just offer to do their job for the same pay. Their boss will be happy to hire a white Christian who speaks his language.
In other words, it's fine with you if Americans -- especially white Christian Americans -- are paid substandard wages and live five or six families to one house.

That shows how little regard you have for your fellow citizens.

We should not only find and deport illegals, we should deport their U.S. citizen supporters.
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