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Old 05-23-2011, 01:41 AM
 
Location: Dalton Gardens
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"A new survey released Friday by Rasmussen Reports shows that more than half of Americans, 60%, believe that the current federal government policies regarding immigration encourage the act of ďborder jumpingĒ or crossing into the US illegally."

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Old 05-23-2011, 09:06 AM
 
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Of course and they will continue to encourage them as long as we allow the politicians to side with the cheap labor lobby.

It's not really that the politicians somehow love people of other countries more than their fellow citizens. They don't really love anything but the money the big corporations and elitists donate and it's also all about the globalist agend. The destruction of the American middle class is the goal, it's about unlimited cheap labor and NAFTA contracts.

Our politicans in both parties have sold out, it's all about big profits for the privileged few and the availability of dirt cheap servants.
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Old 05-23-2011, 10:49 PM
 
Location: North Texas
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Of course and they will continue to encourage them as long as we allow the politicians to side with the cheap labor lobby.

It's not really that the politicians somehow love people of other countries more than their fellow citizens. They don't really love anything but the money the big corporations and elitists donate and it's also all about the globalist agend. The destruction of the American middle class is the goal, it's about unlimited cheap labor and NAFTA contracts.

Our politicans in both parties have sold out, it's all about big profits for the privileged few and the availability of dirt cheap servants.
You nailed it, and people who didn't drink their Kool Aid are branded as racists. Classic diversion tactic.
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Old 05-24-2011, 07:00 AM
 
Location: The Triad (NC)
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Step #1) amend the overly broad language in the 14th Amendment
Step #2) amend the visa policies to align with every other country in the world (including Mexico)
Step #3) there won't need to be a step #3
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What to do about (or how to do it) the MILLION's that have already crossed over?
Well, that is a problem as the political price to get step #1 & 2 above through Congress
will be yet another amnesty.
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Old 05-24-2011, 10:22 AM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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Step #1) amend the overly broad language in the 14th Amendment
Step #2) amend the visa policies to align with every other country in the world (including Mexico)
Step #3) there won't need to be a step #3
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What to do about (or how to do it) the MILLION's that have already crossed over?
Well, that is a problem as the political price to get step #1 & 2 above through Congress
will be yet another amnesty.
Step # 2 isnt illegal immiration reform, it would be just immigration reform.
Step #1...Amending the 14th...to what ever language you believe is needed...would only address "birthright citizenship"...how does that fix all the other federal policies dealing with illegal immigration?
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Old 05-24-2011, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Step # 2 isnt illegal immiration reform, it would be just immigration reform.
Step #1...Amending the 14th...to what ever language you believe is needed...would only address "birthright citizenship"...how does that fix all the other federal policies dealing with illegal immigration?
The fact that anyone can enter this country illegally, and give birth to a U.S. citizen, is THE biggest magnet for illegal immigration. End Birthright Citizenship, and most of illegal immigration will cease. If they canít come here and live off taxpayers, we will see a tremendous decline in their numbers. If they were only coming for jobs, they would not continue to come during times of record unemployment. Parasites donít need jobs.
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Old 05-24-2011, 12:52 PM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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The fact that anyone can enter this country illegally, and give birth to a U.S. citizen, is THE biggest magnet for illegal immigration. End Birthright Citizenship, and most of illegal immigration will cease. If they canít come here and live off taxpayers, we will see a tremendous decline in their numbers. If they were only coming for jobs, they would not continue to come during times of record unemployment. Parasites donít need jobs.
The fact is that amending the 14th would only end birthright citizenship...all the other[your] preceved consequenses to not amending or amending the 14th are only your conjecture that you can in no way prove...

You can suppose outcome till the cows come home, that doesnt make it so...
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Old 05-24-2011, 12:55 PM
 
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The fact is that amending the 14th would only end birthright citizenship...all the other[your] preceved consequenses to not amending or amending the 14th are only your conjecture that you can in no way prove...

You can suppose outcome till the cows come home, that doesnt make it so...
Ending birthright citizenship eliminates a major reason for illegals to invade.
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Old 05-24-2011, 02:00 PM
 
Location: The Triad (NC)
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The fact is that amending the 14th would only end birthright citizenship...
Er, no... that is only the start of what it would do.
Or perhaps more accurately what it would stop allowing what is done now.

Ending birthright citizenship in turn ends any and all rights based in that familial connection which in turn trigger all the other "rights" that abuse of our historical generosity have been allowing.
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The visa policy changes would tighten up requirements and expand enforcement options.
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Old 05-24-2011, 09:54 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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The fact is that amending the 14th would only end birthright citizenship...all the other[your] preceved consequenses to not amending or amending the 14th are only your conjecture that you can in no way prove...

You can suppose outcome till the cows come home, that doesnt make it so...
Only? Surely you jest.

By the way, are you still claiming to oppose illegal immigration?
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