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Old 05-26-2011, 03:15 PM
 
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It seems Mexico just de-criminalized illegal immigration. It also opened social services to illegal immigrants such as education and health, and rights to use the justice system.

DOF - Diario Oficial de la Federación

It is in Spanish, but you can go to "titulo segundo" and use google translate to see the rights illegal immigrants now have in Mexico.

I haven't read all of it...
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Old 05-26-2011, 03:18 PM
 
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Maybe the illegals will choose to stay if from there or will pick Mexico as the Nation of choice.
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Old 05-26-2011, 03:26 PM
 
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Maybe the illegals will choose to stay if from there or will pick Mexico as the Nation of choice.
I'm sure some of them will, as there are quite a bit already, of course not as big in number as in the US. I hope this helps stop the extortions from the drug cartels on illegal immigrants that used to have no rights...
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Old 05-26-2011, 03:47 PM
 
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It seems Mexico just de-criminalized illegal immigration. It also opened social services to illegal immigrants such as education and health, and rights to use the justice system.

DOF - Diario Oficial de la Federación

It is in Spanish, but you can go to "titulo segundo" and use google translate to see the rights illegal immigrants now have in Mexico.

I haven't read all of it...
This has been in the works for months. They really had no choice. They could either continue to be hypocrites, or change their laws. It’s hard demonizing the U.S. while raping, robbing, and killing illegals in their own country.

However, only the truly naive will believe this was some benevolent act by the Mexican government. Their real motive is amnesty for the millions of Mexican illegals in this country. Mark my words, next they’ll offer amnesty in hopes of the U.S. following suit. I haven’t read the article, so perhaps amnesty is already on the table.
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Old 05-26-2011, 04:27 PM
 
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Things are just so insane right now. Coming from one country, go to mexico and offer them goods while others come to this country from mexico while offering them goods. What a shift!

Somebody's gone insane.
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Old 05-27-2011, 12:18 AM
 
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From what I read of that, it looks like it's more about preventing some of the real abuses of illegals in Mexico- such as those Central Americans ending up in mass graves, and providing them a little safety and protection until they get sent back home. There was some part about minor age children traveling alone in Mexico, this gives them better protection from the government.

It really doesn't look like it's supposed to make for a free-for-all like the illegals here demand.
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Old 05-27-2011, 01:13 AM
 
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From what I read of that, it looks like it's more about preventing some of the real abuses of illegals in Mexico- such as those Central Americans ending up in mass graves, and providing them a little safety and protection until they get sent back home. There was some part about minor age children traveling alone in Mexico, this gives them better protection from the government.

It really doesn't look like it's supposed to make for a free-for-all like the illegals here demand.
Article 2: Allows for immigrants that need protection and running for the safety of their lives from a foreign country, remain temporary or permanently in the country.
Article 8: Free Education, Medical attention, emergency medical attention, Article 10: family unification

Among other human rights.
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Old 05-27-2011, 08:47 AM
 
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Article 2: Allows for immigrants that need protection and running for the safety of their lives from a foreign country, remain temporary or permanently in the country.
Article 8: Free Education, Medical attention, emergency medical attention, Article 10: family unification

Among other human rights.
Good. And I read that about the refugees coming to Mexico and being given refugee status. It's a very good thing that they can seek asylum in Mexico and it removes any excuse for them to cross through all of Mexico where most of these so-called refugees speak the language and are culturally very similar just to make it to the USA where they can never adapt.

But my point is still that this isn't about Mexico offering a big free-for-all kind of immigration like the USA has. I don't really get the impression they mean to offer any one who crosses illegally into Mexico a life of free health care, food stamps, WIC, free college or financial aid ahead of the citizens of that country. And I don't get the impression they mean to take in 30 million plus illegals and offer some big amnesty.

I think a lot of this is to clarify what becomes of deported Mexicans and their families and is more geared to protecting some of the Central Americans before they are sent back home. I saw nothing in there saying that Mexico intends to stop all deportations and allow anyone who wishes to just waltz on in and start getting their handouts and rights.
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Old 05-27-2011, 08:54 AM
 
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Good. And I read that about the refugees coming to Mexico and being given refugee status. It's a very good thing that they can seek asylum in Mexico and it removes any excuse for them to cross through all of Mexico where most of these so-called refugees speak the language and are culturally very similar just to make it to the USA where they can never adapt.

But my point is still that this isn't about Mexico offering a big free-for-all kind of immigration like the USA has. I don't really get the impression they mean to offer any one who crosses illegally into Mexico a life of free health care, food stamps, WIC, free college or financial aid ahead of the citizens of that country. And I don't get the impression they mean to take in 30 million plus illegals and offer some big amnesty.

I think a lot of this is to clarify what becomes of deported Mexicans and their families and is more geared to protecting some of the Central Americans before they are sent back home. I saw nothing in there saying that Mexico intends to stop all deportations and allow anyone who wishes to just waltz on in and start getting their handouts and rights.
In my opinion it is "will never" as in refusing to.
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Old 05-27-2011, 09:46 AM
 
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Good. And I read that about the refugees coming to Mexico and being given refugee status. It's a very good thing that they can seek asylum in Mexico and it removes any excuse for them to cross through all of Mexico where most of these so-called refugees speak the language and are culturally very similar just to make it to the USA where they can never adapt.

But my point is still that this isn't about Mexico offering a big free-for-all kind of immigration like the USA has. I don't really get the impression they mean to offer any one who crosses illegally into Mexico a life of free health care, food stamps, WIC, free college or financial aid ahead of the citizens of that country. And I don't get the impression they mean to take in 30 million plus illegals and offer some big amnesty.

I think a lot of this is to clarify what becomes of deported Mexicans and their families and is more geared to protecting some of the Central Americans before they are sent back home. I saw nothing in there saying that Mexico intends to stop all deportations and allow anyone who wishes to just waltz on in and start getting their handouts and rights.
Time will tell, the law is there and the language gives very little room for interpretation as it notes they can have access to education and health. However the government has to enforce it and they can always find a way around it, hopefully the humanitarian atrocities that they suffered in Mexico will stop.
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