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Old 05-27-2011, 02:22 AM
 
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Any thoughts? This issue affects all of us. Its millions and millions of tax payer money going into these private prisons.
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Old 05-27-2011, 02:30 AM
 
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1. The victims: Private prisons don’t care about who they lock up. At a rate of $200 per immigrant a night at their prisons, this is a money making scheme that destroys families and lives.
2. The players: CCA (Corrections Corporation of America), The Geo Group and Management and Training corporations—combined these private prisons currently profit more than $5 billion a year.
3. The money: These private prisons have spent over $20 million lobbying state legislators to make sure they get state anti-immigrant laws approved and ensure access to more immigrant inmates.

From the above youtube.
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Old 05-27-2011, 03:57 AM
 
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Simple solution, if these illegal alien's stop coming across the border thereby breaking American laws and thereby getting arrested and thrown in these jails said jails would have no inmates and have to close.....

If they stayed in their own country their families and lives wouldn't be destroyed.

Please go play the sympathy card somewhere else...

When are you going to get it though your head these illegal aliens, as soon as their foot steps across the border or their body is trafficked across the border they are criminals, period.

Private prisons have cropped up because approximately 40 - 50% of our prison population is comprised of illegal alien criminals and the state prisons are overcrowded because of them.

Don't blame the private prisons, blame the illegal aliens who turn themselves into American criminals when they cross the border and wind up in American prisons thereby destroying their family and lives.

They stay across the border, they are either Guatemalan illegal aliens in Mexico or Mexican citizens and their family's and lives will not be destroyed (at least the Mexican ones). As soon as they cross the border they are American criminals, I can't make that point any clearer.

Their *CHOICE* is to cross the border and become American criminals? Then they pay the price and either get put in jail or deported, again, it was their *CHOICE*.


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Old 05-27-2011, 05:12 AM
 
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Note to forum readers...pay close attention to the above placard. Post #2.

the charcterization of an "illegal alien" is quite clear and dilebrate.

I find it laughable that some on this forum Jump up and down about not being ..."dicriminatory", yet at every turn flaunt their true proclivities...

I strongly urge eveyone that is offended by the dipiction of an illegal alien to lodge a complaint with the moderator.

to do so, look up in the right hand corner of the offensive post...post #2, and click on the red outlined triangle symbol and let your voice be heard...

Refrain from violence of fist, tongue, and heart. MLK
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Old 05-27-2011, 08:38 AM
 
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1. The victims: Private prisons don’t care about who they lock up. At a rate of $200 per immigrant a night at their prisons, this is a money making scheme that destroys families and lives.
2. The players: CCA (Corrections Corporation of America), The Geo Group and Management and Training corporations—combined these private prisons currently profit more than $5 billion a year.
3. The money: These private prisons have spent over $20 million lobbying state legislators to make sure they get state anti-immigrant laws approved and ensure access to more immigrant inmates.

From the above youtube.
All private enterprises are about making profits. That is why they are in business. As for destroying families, well the inmate wouldn't be there in the first place hadn't they broken the law. I am all for housing inmates in the cheapest way possible but let's face it no matter how it is done in regards to illegal aliens the pro-illegals would still complain.

Anti-"immigrant" laws? I know of no such thing. Please explain.
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Old 05-27-2011, 09:45 AM
 
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I think money is all illegal immigration is about anyhow. Illegals lust for easy money, their employers lust for easy profits from ultra cheap labor. So someone wants to make money on building private prisons. It's all about money every way around. The private prisons are legal though.
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Old 06-01-2011, 01:19 AM
 
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Simple solution, if these illegal alien's stop coming across the border thereby breaking American laws and thereby getting arrested and thrown in these jails said jails would have no inmates and have to close.....

If they stayed in their own country their families and lives wouldn't be destroyed.

Please go play the sympathy card somewhere else...

When are you going to get it though your head these illegal aliens, as soon as their foot steps across the border or their body is trafficked across the border they are criminals, period.

Private prisons have cropped up because approximately 40 - 50% of our prison population is comprised of illegal alien criminals and the state prisons are overcrowded because of them.

Don't blame the private prisons, blame the illegal aliens who turn themselves into American criminals when they cross the border and wind up in American prisons thereby destroying their family and lives.

They stay across the border, they are either Guatemalan illegal aliens in Mexico or Mexican citizens and their family's and lives will not be destroyed (at least the Mexican ones). As soon as they cross the border they are American criminals, I can't make that point any clearer.

Their *CHOICE* is to cross the border and become American criminals? Then they pay the price and either get put in jail or deported, again, it was their *CHOICE*.
That is not giving a clear solution on how to avoid this massive spending. We clearly cant control if an immigrant crosses the border. We can do prevention by finishing the fence along the border. How can we avoid tax payers paying these corporations billions of dollars? I know it requires a little more thought into it but I thought maybe we get some ideas...just maybe this time.
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Old 06-01-2011, 01:34 AM
 
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I think money is all illegal immigration is about anyhow. Illegals lust for easy money, their employers lust for easy profits from ultra cheap labor. So someone wants to make money on building private prisons. It's all about money every way around. The private prisons are legal though.
$$$$ Chi-ching!

That is all this issue has ever been about...

U.S. collects social security from fake ss# by the millions, citizens enjoy cheaper agricultural products, cheaper labor, illegal immigrants spend on our economy, foreign countries benefit from remittences, etc. Except, illegals don't make easy money, they get paid low wages. What it means is, their low wages are higher than what they get back home. Those wages are then sent home where parents still live and need to be supported or children...if you get the drift... getting off topic now.

Yes, it is ALL about the MONEY!
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Old 06-01-2011, 02:42 AM
 
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$$$$ Chi-ching!

That is all this issue has ever been about...

U.S. collects social security from fake ss# by the millions, citizens enjoy cheaper agricultural products, cheaper labor, illegal immigrants spend on our economy, foreign countries benefit from remittences, etc. Except, illegals don't make easy money, they get paid low wages. What it means is, their low wages are higher than what they get back home. Those wages are then sent home where parents still live and need to be supported or children...if you get the drift... getting off topic now.

Yes, it is ALL about the MONEY!
Yes but the quick profits aren't the best way in the long run. It would be better for people to build up their own country, create jobs, pay taxes, create a future for their own regions. Slow but steady growth.

Ultimately it doesn't benefit the regions that the people leave. It just makes it so they have to continue leaving. When too many people only want to leave, it brings about instability.

Massive migration of people is caused by social injustice and instability and massive migration leads to social injustice and instability. A number of years ago I watched a panel discussion broadcast from Juarez where they were discussing the problems building up from so many people leaving other regions and coming to Juarez for the maquila jobs, the influx of so many people from other places that were not adapting well, too few jobs for so many.

Obviously they were coming in for the money and being brought in for the and profits they would bring to the maquilas, but no one in authority considered the infrastructure of Juarez, the lack of schools, police and fire. And now we've seen Juarez deteriorate. The panel was somewhat sympathetic to the new arrivals, the promise of good-paying jobs was causing them to leave behind their social networks and way of life to come to the border town filling with new factories, jobs that seemed to pay very well but the cost of living wasn't considered.

In the following article it discusses some of the problem, and exactly some of that panel's worst predictions. The panel was made of people of Juarez, a priest, social workers, educators.

Flight brings plight: About 25% of Juárez homes sit empty, as residents flee drug war violence - El Paso Times

About a quarter of the homes in Juárez are empty due to the massive exodus of people who have fled the current wave of violence, and the urban planning mistakes of the past. Now, the abandoned neighborhoods attract vandalism, breed new criminals, weigh down financially on the city and represent one of the biggest obstacles for its recovery.



For a time Juarez's future looked so bright, so promising - but now it's difficult to see a future at all. I believe it's still Mexico's fourth largest city. And the most Americanized.
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Old 06-01-2011, 09:15 AM
 
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$$$$ Chi-ching!

That is all this issue has ever been about...

U.S. collects social security from fake ss# by the millions, citizens enjoy cheaper agricultural products, cheaper labor, illegal immigrants spend on our economy, foreign countries benefit from remittences, etc. Except, illegals don't make easy money, they get paid low wages. What it means is, their low wages are higher than what they get back home. Those wages are then sent home where parents still live and need to be supported or children...if you get the drift... getting off topic now.

Yes, it is ALL about the MONEY!
The fact that some SS monies are paid into the fund by illegal aliens is irrelevant. It is only there because they either used a fake or stolen SS number and are working illegally in our country. I don't applaud profit made by unlawfullness or feel sorry for those who commit such acts and never see a penny of it.

Little if any savings are passed on to the consumer in the way of cheaper prices as the employers just pocket the extra profits. Any so-called savings are wiped out by the taxpayer funded social costs for these illegal aliens. Unemployed Americans would also be contributing to the economy and paying sales taxes if their jobs hadn't been stolen by illegal aliens. Much of the monies that they make they send to their homelands in the form of remittances so it doesn't stay in our economy.

Yes, it all about the money on the part of the illegals and their greedy employers but I sure wouldn't give that a thumbs up.
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