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Old 05-29-2011, 04:22 PM
 
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Criminal deportees worry Mexican border mayors - El Paso Times

Mayors of 14 border cities from Tijuana to Matamoros meeting in Mexico City on Friday say they already have problems because U.S. authorities often don't warn them when migrants with criminal records are deported to Mexico.



They don't exactly warn us when they come our way. They can take their trash back, and if they want, they can wait for them right on the border when we send it back and check them out then.
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Old 05-29-2011, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Gee..do they warn us when they come to the US ?
Too bad..we're just giving them back their own.
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Old 05-29-2011, 04:26 PM
 
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I like what this guy said: "We have to have better coordination," added Hector Murguia, mayor of Ciudad Juarez across the border from El Paso, Texas. "It's not about throwing the fleas and cockroaches across the border. Together, we have to kill the fleas and cockroaches."

I think all we have to do is throw the fleas and cockroaches back across the border and what they decide to do with them from that point is up to them. These are there fleas and cockroaches -- but where is La Raza when a Mexican calls his own people fleas and cockroaches?
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Old 05-29-2011, 06:36 PM
 
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I'm with those who said we didn't get warned when they jumped the fence. Mexican nationals = Mexico's problem.
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Old 05-29-2011, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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I like what this guy said: "We have to have better coordination," added Hector Murguia, mayor of Ciudad Juarez across the border from El Paso, Texas. "It's not about throwing the fleas and cockroaches across the border. Together, we have to kill the fleas and cockroaches."

I think all we have to do is throw the fleas and cockroaches back across the border and what they decide to do with them from that point is up to them. These are there fleas and cockroaches -- but where is La Raza when a Mexican calls his own people fleas and cockroaches?
Imagine if we used the same description for illegals. We would be labeled every vile name in the book, and then some.

Is there is a country with more gall than Mexico? They criticize the U.S. for not wanting their reprobates. Yet, they don’t want them either. Sorry, Mexico, we have a right to dump your garbage back across the border, without notification. If you don’t like it, tough s***.
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Old 05-29-2011, 08:32 PM
 
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What the hell are they talking about, they don't get notification? Whaaa?

Wintering in Yuma AZ and often visiting the ports of entry of Algodonez and San Luis, we, on many occasions, witnessed those big motorcoaches with the chain link fencing over the windows and labled "Wackenhut' with the Border Patrol agents on board having to get cleared through the Mexican border kiosks before disgorging their loads on the Mexican side of the border.
What are those Mexican agents manning those booths being told? "These are a bunch of spanish speaking tourists on a junket to shop for junk". A simple phone call from the kiosk to the local "policia" would solve their dilemna, it would seem to me. Just keep the bus there until the local "morbida collectors" show up to keep them corralled after de-bussing.

Gimme a break here! Those border communities know full well when a couple of bus loads are coming in because they need prior approval to cross the border. This is all bullcrap to muddy the waters.

This is simply to ellicit another level of funding so the local cops can "appear" to perform some discretionary "legal adjudication" loosely translated to taking them all to the local ball park and convince them that to commit a crime in their bailywick would be a painful experience for them so they have two choices: get their asses out of town tonight or swim back across that border post-haste. Either choice is fine with the local cops.

Not one of those busloads is hitting that border by surprise.
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Old 05-30-2011, 10:42 AM
 
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What the hell are they talking about, they don't get notification? Whaaa?

Wintering in Yuma AZ and often visiting the ports of entry of Algodonez and San Luis, we, on many occasions, witnessed those big motorcoaches with the chain link fencing over the windows and labled "Wackenhut' with the Border Patrol agents on board having to get cleared through the Mexican border kiosks before disgorging their loads on the Mexican side of the border.
What are those Mexican agents manning those booths being told? "These are a bunch of spanish speaking tourists on a junket to shop for junk". A simple phone call from the kiosk to the local "policia" would solve their dilemna, it would seem to me. Just keep the bus there until the local "morbida collectors" show up to keep them corralled after de-bussing.

Gimme a break here! Those border communities know full well when a couple of bus loads are coming in because they need prior approval to cross the border. This is all bullcrap to muddy the waters.

This is simply to ellicit another level of funding so the local cops can "appear" to perform some discretionary "legal adjudication" loosely translated to taking them all to the local ball park and convince them that to commit a crime in their bailywick would be a painful experience for them so they have two choices: get their asses out of town tonight or swim back across that border post-haste. Either choice is fine with the local cops.

Not one of those busloads is hitting that border by surprise.
Maybe we need to be unloading these deportees at the South end of Mexico instead.
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Old 05-30-2011, 03:39 PM
 
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Default Cutting off our nose...

I see many here saying “Screw Mexico it serves them right.” After all throwing a hardened criminal drug dealer, rapist or murder, onto the streets of Mexico makes it their problem, not ours.

We have nothing to worry about since our tight boarder security will stop them from re-entering to victimize US citizens again. The crimes they commit in Mexico can’t possibly affect us on this side of the border. And even though one of these criminal, as the article pointed out, “became a leader of a cell of the Zetas drug gang” I’m sure that this criminal didn’t dare smuggle drugs and illegals Mexicans across the secure borders to America.

After all our government manages the borders with such efficiency and transparency that the 14 Mexican mayors are obviously lying about our government not informing them "when migrants with criminal records are deported to Mexico."

And it’s not really necessary anyways since those deported must surly tell the Mexican police weather they were convicted of DUI or murder. Even if they don't it would be too difficult and cost at least a buck or two to print out the criminal records of those we deport and hand it over to the Mexican authorities on the other side of the border.

Even if we did give them this information, I’m sure that lazy and corrupt Mexican officials would ignore 90% of it, which means at most only 20,000 criminals of the 200,000 jailed illegals we deport might be put in prison in Mexico. So why should we care if Mexico is given the tools to deal with the 200,000 US convicted Mexican illegals we deport every year? All those criminals will stay on that side of the border after tasting American justice.

Remember, by saying #$%@ you to the Mexicans officials who want to try to deal with the criminals we deport, we're helping to stop illegal immigration and crime right here in America!

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Old 05-30-2011, 04:00 PM
 
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Maybe we should just transfer criminal illegal immigrants serving time in our prisons to the Mexican Government and tell them to have the deportees serving jail time to continue doing that in their jail system.
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Old 05-30-2011, 07:11 PM
 
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All good points but firstly; why should it be the responsibility of the U.S. to maintain all the records and also, does anyone believe that if mexican authorities "requested" criminal records that your country would refuse them?

Once it is determined enough have been detained in the border patrol holding center and a busload or two is ready for shipment home, to get the required permission for the buses to cross the border wouldn't it seem logical that a call is made informing the Mx. border agents that "X" number of illegal aliens of Mx origin are coming your way.

If the Mexican authorities are so concerned for the safety and welfare of their border communities I believe all they would have to do is detain the entire busload until THEY verify who they are and what pre-existing criminal records they may have before they snuck into the U.S. instead of allowing them to beat feet into the desert scrub. Why should you bear all the costs with no co-operation from them to staunch their problem. No shame is borne by them for having a sizable population that wants out at any cost.

Those mayors might have a hard time convincing the U.S. Border Services of their sincereity when it has been witnessed on many occasions that felons on the run from U.S. authorities, and being chased, manage to blitz through the Mexican check points to dissappear while the U.S. authorities are faced with those Mexican border police with guns drawn. I wonder why those mayors weren't there asking what crime those cretins were being chased for before they were allowed to 'run the gate' if they're so worried about their communities safety.

Hogwash, more Mexican arrogance putting the emphasis on the U.S. to co-operate while they stymie you at every turn.
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