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Old 05-30-2011, 03:31 PM
 
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I was reading this today. Great story. It looks like the Obama administration is the first to to enforce illegal immigration laws in any meaningful way.

Previously, we had seen a number of silly and expensive measures that really don't work. These included expensive border fences and previous administrations' tactics that were largely focused on targeting the workers themselves. This might have won votes, but it did nothing to combat the problem.

The better approach, stop the immigrants incentive for coming here. Can't get a job then there's no reason to take the journey. The administration is targeting business owners and managers and prosecuting them. Hire illegals, go to jail is a very good way to change corporate behavior.

Of course, you don't hear much about this in the liberal biased mainstream media.

Nation & World | Hiring of illegal workers draws scrutiny | Seattle Times Newspaper

 
Old 05-30-2011, 03:39 PM
 
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We can admit that the number of illegal immigrants deported have surged since President Obama became president. Not sure wheater's it because of him or not.
 
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Attack/blame/put the onus on business. The Obama administration has been consistent in this regard.
 
Old 05-30-2011, 03:45 PM
 
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Back when the Republicans had control of the House, Senate and Presidency for 6 full years, they did nothing like this. It's odd how people think that they are for the American worker, but nothing about it.
 
Old 05-30-2011, 03:57 PM
 
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I was reading this today. Great story. It looks like the Obama administration is the first to to enforce illegal immigration laws in any meaningful way.

Previously, we had seen a number of silly and expensive measures that really don't work. These included expensive border fences and previous administrations' tactics that were largely focused on targeting the workers themselves. This might have won votes, but it did nothing to combat the problem.

The better approach, stop the immigrants incentive for coming here. Can't get a job then there's no reason to take the journey. The administration is targeting business owners and managers and prosecuting them. Hire illegals, go to jail is a very good way to change corporate behavior.

Of course, you don't hear much about this in the liberal biased mainstream media.

Nation & World | Hiring of illegal workers draws scrutiny | Seattle Times Newspaper
I thought it was the Republicans looking for employers to use E-verify?

Until that is in place, how does an employer know who is being employed?
Has the Democrats jumped on board the E-verify system?
 
Old 05-30-2011, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
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Last year, according to government figures, the enforcement agency started 2,746 workplace investigations in addition to the audits, more than double the number in 2008, the last full year of the Bush administration. Fines totaling about $43 million, also a record, were levied.

Homeland Security officials, speaking anonymously to discuss internal policy, said immigration officers no longer were authorized to carry out workplace raids unless they cooperated with federal prosecutors to prepare criminal cases against the employers. Last year, 119 employers were convicted.
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The Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency expects to deport about 400,000 people this fiscal year, nearly 10 percent above the Bush administration's 2008 total and 25 percent more than were deported in 2007. The pace of company audits has roughly quadrupled since President George W. Bush's final year in office.

Deportation of illegal immigrants increases under Obama administration
So, under the Obama administration, there have been more than double the number of workplace investigations, quadruple the number of corporate audits, $43 million in fines to business owners, 119 convictions and deportations of illegals have risen sharply.

This is exactly what the rightwingers here have been calling for.

Let's watch them disparage the President anyway.

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Old 05-30-2011, 04:10 PM
 
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We can admit that the number of illegal immigrants deported have surged since President Obama became president. Not sure wheater's it because of him or not.
Really, that would be good. Get me an article on that.

I know Obama has kept us in a rotten recession and many went home for a lack of work, but if you can get me some information about all these increased deported illegals I'd love to read about it.
 
Old 05-30-2011, 04:13 PM
 
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Back when the Republicans had control of the House, Senate and Presidency for 6 full years, they did nothing like this. It's odd how people think that they are for the American worker, but nothing about it.
They didn't allow Amnesty for illegals to pass and Obama seems to want a pathways for illegals who broke the law to come here ahead of the rest of the world trying to come here through proper channels.
 
Old 05-30-2011, 04:16 PM
 
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Back when the Republicans had control of the House, Senate and Presidency for 6 full years, they did nothing like this. It's odd how people think that they are for the American worker, but nothing about it.
Well said Not to mention republicans love illegals. Just look at Reagan who passed blanket amnesty, Bush who called for it and McCain who also tried to pass an amnesty bill in congress.
 
Old 05-30-2011, 04:19 PM
 
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Considering that any individual who has even a minor mistake in their taxes (and no, I've never been audited or questioned) will have a voracious IRS on them in a second and freezing their bank accounts, this push seems more token than real. The article talks about anecdotal cases, single businesses (and not large ones like Big Agriculture). The problem is huge, and it is very telling that it's just a small taco joint owned by a hispanic family they're targeting.

Considering the devastation immigration (both legal and illegal) has done to the American workforce, I'd think the government's number one priority should be protecting the work force from being further overpopulated with foreigners. Legal immigration should be zero, and illegal immigration should be the target of our overgrown military, which is deployed in multiple unwinnable foreign conflicts while leaving our borders open.

But wait, I forget. Our government is owned by Big Business, who LOVES a bloated labor pool that has hundreds or thousands lining up for jobs that won't pay enough for food and a studio apartment. So it all makes sense.
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