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Old 05-31-2011, 06:45 AM
 
Location: Tempe, Az
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Sen. Ron Gould, R-Lake Havasu City, who sponsored SB 1465, said the law stemmed from concern that the Mexican government does not adequately verify the identity of individuals before issuing them a card.
"This is not a secure method of ID," Gould said.
He said if the Mexican government wants to provide a secure form of identification for its citizens living in the U.S., it can do so with a passport.
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We need passports in most places, there good enough for Mexicans here.
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Old 05-31-2011, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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Immigrant-advocacy groups worry the new law will leave some immigrants without a form of identification and further
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dissuade them from reporting crimes to law enforcement
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She said the new law is giving immigrants more reason to avoid law enforcement, even to report a crime.
Why is it that they try and use this ignorant excuse when ever it comes to illegals following our laws? Is it more important that an unidentified illegal report a crime... maybe once a year, than knowing the name of the person(s) that's in this country illegally?
I'm sick of hearing it.
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Old 05-31-2011, 08:27 AM
 
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Why is it that they try and use this ignorant excuse when ever it comes to illegals following our laws? Is it more important that an unidentified illegal report a crime... maybe once a year, than knowing the name of the person(s) that's in this country illegally?
I'm sick of hearing it.
As am I. Note that the word "immigrants" was used rather than illegal aliens? Why would an "immigrant" be afraid to report a crime?
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Old 05-31-2011, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Sen. Ron Gould, R-Lake Havasu City, who sponsored SB 1465, said the law stemmed from concern that the Mexican government does not adequately verify the identity of individuals before issuing them a card.
"This is not a secure method of ID," Gould said.
He said if the Mexican government wants to provide a secure form of identification for its citizens living in the U.S., it can do so with a passport.
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Read more: New ID law in Ariz. stirs worries for immigrants

We need passports in most places, there good enough for Mexicans here.
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I used to see some of those cards in NYC when I worked at a bank. They are not worth the paper they are printed on but our bank accepted them.
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Old 05-31-2011, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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"US Cellular" sells or furnishes "matricula consular" cards right out of their office. It must be an old sign on their door, because after Oklahoma passed HB 1804, most illegals hit the road running.
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Old 05-31-2011, 10:04 AM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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"US Cellular" sells or furnishes "matricula consular" cards right out of their office. It must be an old sign on their door, because after Oklahoma passed HB 1804, most illegals hit the road running.
Maybe you misread the sign. perhaps US Celluar open accounts with the MC card...not sold them.

MC cards are issued through the Mexican consulate offices.
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Old 05-31-2011, 10:10 AM
 
Location: North Texas
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MC cards aren't worth the paper they're printed on. However I've seen my local Kroger accept it as a valid form of ID for buying alcohol and cigarettes. Outrageous.
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Old 05-31-2011, 10:17 AM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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MC cards aren't worth the paper they're printed on. However I've seen my local Kroger accept it as a valid form of ID for buying alcohol and cigarettes. Outrageous.
If the state of Texas considers them valid ID, then the hold the weight of the state of Texas.
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Old 05-31-2011, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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As am I. Note that the word "immigrants" was used rather than illegal aliens? Why would an "immigrant" be afraid to report a crime?
You beat me to it Chicagonut. LEGAL immigrants have nothing to worry about. Like I said in another thread, it's conditioning. Our liberally biased media is always softening the issue. They constantly drop the "Illegal" and generally replace that with "undocumented"! It's getting us ready for the next amnesty, they're trying to put a positive spin on a outrageously negative issue.
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Old 05-31-2011, 01:23 PM
 
Location: North Texas
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If the state of Texas considers them valid ID, then the hold the weight of the state of Texas.
The state of Texas does not have a prescriptive list of acceptable forms of identification for the purchase of alcoholic beverages. It's entirely up to the business what forms of ID they will/won't accept, so it's actually on KROGER.

TABC Age Verification / Checking IDs
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