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Old 06-02-2011, 07:49 PM
 
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You dont have to want them here, and you can even argue that they should leave...but you dont have to crap on them to prove that. Leave that to the others that enjoy doing that.
Who's crapping on them?
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Old 06-02-2011, 07:50 PM
 
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Of course. The founding fathers are revolutionaries.

You really think they would have been on your side of this discussion?

Your position is "daft" to put it in the language of the time.
Apparently the majority of Americans are "daft" then. How dare they expect our immigration laws to be respected and enforced!
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Old 06-02-2011, 07:54 PM
 
Location: NW Las Vegas - Lone Mountain
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Apparently the majority of Americans are "daft" then. How dare they expect our immigration laws to be respected and enforced!
Actually you far over value the understanding of the people of America. Only a small minority even understand the argument.

But most know they don't want to use force to send those people back to Mexico. Now what?
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Old 06-02-2011, 08:36 PM
 
Location: Tempe, Az
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You dont have to want them here, and you can even argue that they should leave...but you dont have to crap on them to prove that. Leave that to the others that enjoy doing that.
Illegals hurt ME cause some people cant tell the diference between Chicanos and illegals. And since I dont speak Spanish it makes it worse. Mexicans think Im a pocho. Which makes me mad cause I DONT go to Mexico and bust on them in there country.
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Old 06-02-2011, 08:37 PM
 
Location: Tempe, Az
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Actually you far over value the understanding of the people of America. Only a small minority even understand the argument.

But most know they don't want to use force to send those people back to Mexico. Now what?
Im cool with using force to clean out the illegals. Mexico does it to there illegal aliens.
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Old 06-02-2011, 09:00 PM
 
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I find it ironic that many of you so called libertarians are constitutionalists, yet you only nit pick. The constitutions clearly says all people within the US jurisdiction have rights.


When marauding hordes move into established areas (with clear, internationally recognized and legal borders) in their tens of millions it constitutes an invasion. Criminal invaders have no rights other than to breathe.

High time all our politicians and law enforcement personnel grew enough balls or ovaries to call it like it really is...an invasion by criminals.

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Old 06-02-2011, 10:38 PM
 
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Actually you far over value the understanding of the people of America. Only a small minority even understand the argument.

But most know they don't want to use force to send those people back to Mexico. Now what?
Well no one wants to see force used on anyone. Not drunk drivers, not shoplifters, not bad check writers, tax evaders, not wife beaters. Even animals - no one wants to see forced used on stray dogs and cats but they don't want their neighborhoods overrun by them.

They want them arrested and if force is used, well - most people aren't all that concerned about it either. They just don't want to see it.

And it's better when apprehended if you don't put up some big fight and try to make a scene because that can be called resisting arrest.
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Old 06-03-2011, 06:01 AM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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Illegals hurt ME cause some people cant tell the diference between Chicanos and illegals. And since I dont speak Spanish it makes it worse. Mexicans think Im a pocho. Which makes me mad cause I DONT go to Mexico and bust on them in there country.
But who can't tell the difference? You should be treated right...not just because you are an American...because it is the right thing to do.

You are a Pocho...pocho just means you were born here. like Chicano.
It anit a bad thing...and dont let anyone tell it is. NO ONE.

You will never change what people think of you...but dont add to the noise. People are going to hate you because of the way you look...even if every illegal is gone today.

Once they get rid of one group, they look around for the next...thats how they role.
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Old 06-03-2011, 07:27 AM
 
Location: Holiday, FL
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One of the main reasons we have illegals, is that they are able to find work here and make more money than they can at home. Recent laws that come down on employers who hire illegals are the best way to go. That way, when they get here, if they can't get work, they'll go home on their own. During the recession, many were going home. We do need to protect American jobs for Americans first. Unfortunately, I know of people that applied for work at a plant, and were turned down. Not because they weren't qualified, but because the plant was not hiring. They didn't have any openings. Then, after immigration went through and checked the employees, there were hundreds of openings. When Americans, born here, can't find jobs because illegals are working there, we have a problem.

With all the American industries leaving our boarders, we have a major problem. Freightliner trucks was an American company, but most of the trucks they sell are built in Mexico. Go to a department store and see how many of the products you buy are made in other countries. We've already sacrificed our good jobs to them, and they're still coming here for what we have left?

Yes, they do have rights. Among them, are life, liberty, and the "PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS." But, note. Just like the rest of us, that is "PURSUIT". Why do we have to guarantee their happiness if we have no guarantee for our own?
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Old 06-03-2011, 07:36 AM
 
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Actually you far over value the understanding of the people of America. Only a small minority even understand the argument.

But most know they don't want to use force to send those people back to Mexico. Now what?
The majority of Americans however back involuntarity deportations by removing all incentives to remain or continue to come here.
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