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Old 06-01-2011, 04:42 PM
 
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I find it ironic that many of you so called libertarians are constitutionalists, yet you only nit pick. The constitutions clearly says all people within the US jurisdiction have rights.


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Old 06-01-2011, 05:19 PM
 
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I find it ironic that many of you so called libertarians are constitutionalists, yet you only nit pick. The constitutions clearly says all people within the US jurisdiction have rights.


I am not a libertarian. What ever rights are afforded to illegals by the Constitution I would hope would be what the writers of it intended. I am suspect however due to the fact that the 14th amendment is being grossly misinterpreted. I do know that illegals have basic "human" rights and I don't have any qualms with that.
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Old 06-01-2011, 05:41 PM
 
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Do you think they should have the right to ignore our immigration laws? To move here with infectious diseases and demand treatment? To skip the line when legal immigrants have been patiently waiting to come here? To commit crimes? To gain access to welfare programs funded by the American taxpayer? To drive without a license or insurance? To demand Americans learn Spanish or else hire interpreters because they have come here unprepared to function in and English speaking society?

Please tell us.
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Old 06-01-2011, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Tempe, Az
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I find it ironic that many of you so called libertarians are constitutionalists, yet you only nit pick. The constitutions clearly says all people within the US jurisdiction have rights.


Yeppers:

ILLEGAL aliens do have rights: so do other lawbreakers.
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Old 06-01-2011, 06:42 PM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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Do you think they should have the right to ignore our immigration laws? To move here with infectious diseases and demand treatment? To skip the line when legal immigrants have been patiently waiting to come here? To commit crimes? To gain access to welfare programs funded by the American taxpayer? To drive without a license or insurance? To demand Americans learn Spanish or else hire interpreters because they have come here unprepared to function in and English speaking society?

Please tell us.
There is difference between "rights" and privileges. No one has a right to ignore laws. Driving is a not a right; it is a privilege offered by states.
The other examples you listed are not rights held by any person; American citizen or not.
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Old 06-02-2011, 04:51 AM
 
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They have the "right" to get the hell out of our country if they are here illegally.

IF YOU ARE HERE ILLEGALLY, GET OUT!
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Old 06-02-2011, 05:04 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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There is difference between "rights" and privileges. No one has a right to ignore laws. Driving is a not a right; it is a privilege offered by states.
The other examples you listed are not rights held by any person; American citizen or not.

That's certainly an interesting stance coming from someone who continually supports and defends illegal immigrants.
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Old 06-02-2011, 05:28 AM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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That's certainly an interesting stance coming from someone who continually supports and defends illegal immigrants.
That has always been my stance, what you precieve me to be is your deal.

I dont know what you "mean" by "supports and defends illegal immigrants"; but I understand your confusion. Many times when I defend a person's right to free speech, many think I condone that speech.

Likewise when I show that illegal aliens are afforded rights, privilges and beneifts [ given by the state or federal government] many incorrectly assume I "support and defend" illegal aliens.

Knowing the law no more make me a supporter of illegal aliens than knowing the law makes me a supporter of the KKK.
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Old 06-02-2011, 05:56 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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That has always been my stance, what you precieve me to be is your deal.

I dont know what you "mean" by "supports and defends illegal immigrants"; but I understand your confusion. Many times when I defend a person's right to free speech, many think I condone that speech.

Likewise when I show that illegal aliens are afforded rights, privilges and beneifts [ given by the state or federal government] many incorrectly assume I "support and defend" illegal aliens.

Knowing the law no more make me a supporter of illegal aliens than knowing the law makes me a supporter of the KKK.

Riiiiiight. Thanks for "clearing that up."

So then you are all for border security, keeping illegals out, and deporting the illegals that are here.
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Old 06-02-2011, 06:16 AM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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Riiiiiight. Thanks for "clearing that up."

So then you are all for border security, keeping illegals out, and deporting the illegals that are here.
Read my posts on what I said on border security or any other immigration issue...I stand by all my posts.

I find it interesting, that the topic of this thread is illegal aliens and rights, yet you have not commented on the topic, but seemed focused on my views of un-realted topics.

If you would like to start a thread on "Border security" or any other immigration issue, I would answer any related questions you may have...
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