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Old 06-04-2011, 09:29 PM
 
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Well there goes my vote for him and I was thinking about it but this is a deal breaker, the only person to rank lower than him is guess who? Obama!




2012 Presidential Hopefuls' Immigration Stances | NumbersUSA - For Lower Immigration Levels
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Old 06-04-2011, 10:01 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Good info. It looks like we've already lost our courtry no matter who is elected. But that really doesn't surprise me. It took both democrats and republicans to run up that $14 trillion deficit. Politicians are all liars and crooks.
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Old 06-05-2011, 07:51 AM
 
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Yes, Ron Paul is not the candidate to vote for if you are an anti-illegal immigrationist. I suggest Herman Cain and/or Michelle Bachman.
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Old 06-05-2011, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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It doesn't really say much in details. Here's something else with his stand in immigration.
If you notice he wants to remove all incentives for them to come, stay and make use of our entitlement programs.
Rather than round them up and ship them back...remove all financial,legal incentives for them to come in the first place.

Ron Paul on the Issues
  • If economy were good, there’d be no immigration problem. (Dec 2007)
  • Amend Constitution to remove aliens’ birthright citizenship. (Dec 2007)
  • Those who attack bilingualism are jealous & feel inferior. (Dec 2007)
  • No amnesty, but impractical to round up 12 million illegals. (Sep 2007)
  • Immigration problem is consequence of welfare state. (Sep 2007)
  • No amnesty, but border fence isn’t so important. (Jun 2007)
  • We subsidize illegal immigration, so we get more. (Jun 2007)
  • Keep rule barring immigrants from running for president. (May 2007)
  • End all incentives and amnesty for illegal immigrants. (Jan 2006)
  • Voted YES on building a fence along the Mexican border. (Sep 2006)
  • Voted YES on preventing tipping off Mexicans about Minuteman Project. (Jun 2006)
  • Voted YES on reporting illegal aliens who receive hospital treatment. (May 2004)
  • Voted YES on extending Immigrant Residency rules. (May 2001)
  • Voted YES on more immigrant visas for skilled workers. (Sep 1998)
  • Sponsored bill banning student visas from terrorist nations. (Jan 2003)
  • Rated 100% by FAIR, indicating a voting record restricting immigration. (Dec 2003)
  • Rated 83% by USBC, indicating a sealed-border stance. (Dec 2006)
  • Government services in English only. (Mar 2008)
  • Rated C by the ALI, indicating an acceptably anti-amnesty stance. (Nov 2010)
  • Declare English as the official language of the US. (Feb 2007)
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Old 06-05-2011, 09:02 AM
 
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Originally Posted by HappyTexan View Post
It doesn't really say much in details. Here's something else with his stand in immigration.
If you notice he wants to remove all incentives for them to come, stay and make use of our entitlement programs.
Rather than round them up and ship them back...remove all financial,legal incentives for them to come in the first place.

Ron Paul on the Issues
  • If economy were good, there’d be no immigration problem. (Dec 2007)
  • Amend Constitution to remove aliens’ birthright citizenship. (Dec 2007)
  • Those who attack bilingualism are jealous & feel inferior. (Dec 2007)
  • No amnesty, but impractical to round up 12 million illegals. (Sep 2007)
  • Immigration problem is consequence of welfare state. (Sep 2007)
  • No amnesty, but border fence isn’t so important. (Jun 2007)
  • We subsidize illegal immigration, so we get more. (Jun 2007)
  • Keep rule barring immigrants from running for president. (May 2007)
  • End all incentives and amnesty for illegal immigrants. (Jan 2006)
  • Voted YES on building a fence along the Mexican border. (Sep 2006)
  • Voted YES on preventing tipping off Mexicans about Minuteman Project. (Jun 2006)
  • Voted YES on reporting illegal aliens who receive hospital treatment. (May 2004)
  • Voted YES on extending Immigrant Residency rules. (May 2001)
  • Voted YES on more immigrant visas for skilled workers. (Sep 1998)
  • Sponsored bill banning student visas from terrorist nations. (Jan 2003)
  • Rated 100% by FAIR, indicating a voting record restricting immigration. (Dec 2003)
  • Rated 83% by USBC, indicating a sealed-border stance. (Dec 2006)
  • Government services in English only. (Mar 2008)
  • Rated C by the ALI, indicating an acceptably anti-amnesty stance. (Nov 2010)
  • Declare English as the official language of the US. (Feb 2007)
Many of these are not up to date. Some are even over 10 years old. Here is the latest on Ron Paul and other presidential hopefuls.

2012 Presidential Hopefuls' Immigration Stances | NumbersUSA - For Lower Immigration Levels
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Old 06-05-2011, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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Very disappointing.
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Old 06-05-2011, 01:35 PM
 
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Libertarians are basically anarchists. They don't believe in law and order because law and order in their opinion is just another form of of big government intruding in people's private lives. They see being tough on illegal immigration and securing out borders as taking away the freedoms of illegals who want to come to America for a better life.

Libertarians believe that people should be able to freely immigrate to any country on the planet that they want to without going through the proper process. They believe in open borders because closed borders to them is just another form of fascism.
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Old 06-14-2011, 12:44 PM
 
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Your representation of Libertarianism is incredibly off-base.
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Old 06-15-2011, 09:52 PM
 
Location: Portlandia "burbs"
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This does not surprise me at all. During his last running Paul showed no interested in addressing illegal immigration, anyway.

I had an interest in the Libertarian Party back in the 90's, so I stopped at the local chapter to pick up information. I was dishearted to read two agendas they supported that went totally against my stance, and illegal immigration was one of them. It was printed right on the page in black and white that the Libertarian Party believed that these trespassers had a "right" to be here.

With that, the materials went into the garbage and I never entertained the possibility of enrolling in the Libertarian Party.
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