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View Poll Results: Do You Have Illegal Immigrants As Neighbors ?
YES 29 46.03%
NO 34 53.97%
Voters: 63. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-08-2011, 06:50 AM
 
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I actually love that. New York's reputation for openness and diversity is why it is often referred to as the greatest city on earth. Moderator cut: personal, please read the tos
So harboring lawbreakers is the same thing as diversity?
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Old 06-08-2011, 07:29 AM
 
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USCIS does track statistics (DHS | Immigration Statistics) like age for those that naturalize each year. In recent years the percentage of older immigrants has steadily decreased. Here are the numbers for the last three years:

2010:
Between age 45 to 54: 105,620
Between age 55 to 64: 61,755
Over age 65: 42,618

2009:
Between age 45 to 54: 133,538
Between age 55 to 64: 87,245
Over age 65: 57,908

2008:
Between age 45 to 54: 195,785
Between age 55 to 64: 131,854
Over age 65: 78,744

Keep in mind that a naturalizing immigrant can be as young as age 50 to qualify not to be tested on knowledge of the English language...

If you say that 99% of Americans know English, what is the percentage for both legal and illegal immigrants?...

Like stated before those numbers are very small compared to 300 million plus Americans.

Those stats don't show that the English Req was waved so we cannot go by that data.
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Old 06-08-2011, 07:30 AM
 
Location: Staten Island, New York
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I actually love that. New York's reputation for openness and diversity is why it is often referred to as the greatest city on earth. Moderator cut: personal, please read the tos
You'd change your mind if you lived in my neighborhood.
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Old 06-08-2011, 07:31 AM
 
Location: Staten Island, New York
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So harboring lawbreakers is the same thing as diversity?
Bingo!
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Old 06-08-2011, 07:50 AM
 
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I actually love that. New York's reputation for openness and diversity is why it is often referred to as the greatest city on earth. Moderator cut: personal, please read the tos
So you support sanctuary cities?
You support open borders?
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Old 06-08-2011, 07:52 AM
 
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The Mexican parent(s) can apply for their children to gain Mexican nationality (and it doesn't matter for any immigration or citizenship status the parent(s) have in the United States or elsewhere, as long as they are Mexican citizens). It isn't citizenship (they cannot serve in the Mexican military or public office in Mexico), nor awarded upon birth. How do you know their "first language" is Spanish in those situations?

Misunderstanding on your part, but I understand how there is a failure to study references...
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  • Mexican citizenship requirements use the long history of "Right of Soil" AND "Right of Blood." These principles were established during the Napoleonic era to determine who was a citizen or natural of which country. The Right of Soil determines that a person is a citizen is born within a certain area. Right of Blood is based on the concept that someone can be a citizen if they are born to another citizen, regardless of location.

Geography
  • According to the Constitution of Mexico, anyone born within the borders of the Mexican territory automatically achieves citizenship. It doesn't matter if the person is of Mexican descent or some other nation, citizenship is bestowed upon the individual because of the place of birth. This means that many people with Mexican citizenship are dual citizens with other countries.

Significance
  • ANYONE born outside of Mexico to someone who is either a Mexican by birth or through the process of naturalization is also a Mexican citizen. This process extends to anyone who is born on an aircraft or sea vessel as well, regardless of ancestry. As long as the plane or ship is registered as a Mexican business or property, the person born on it will automatically become a citizen.


Read more: Mexican Citizenship Requirements | eHow.com Mexican Citizenship Requirements | eHow.com
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Old 06-08-2011, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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So harboring lawbreakers is the same thing as diversity?
Exactly. Thanks Chicago! See how they try and rationalize and justify?
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Old 06-08-2011, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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I actually love that. New York's reputation for openness and diversity is why it is often referred to as the greatest city on earth. Moderator cut: personal, please read the tos
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So you support sanctuary cities?
You support open borders?
AA NYC, of course he does. Anyone that would equate the greatness of NY's rich diversity to illegal immigration has an agenda or a personal stake.
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Old 06-08-2011, 08:12 AM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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Exactly. Thanks Chicago! See how they try and rationalize and justify?
To be absolutly clear, the poster stated..."New York's reputation for openness and diversity is why it is often referred to as the greatest city on earth." His assesment of the city in no way "rationalizes or justifies" any aspect of illegal immigration...Right? Of course it doesnt.
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Old 06-08-2011, 08:21 AM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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So then why do illegal alien supporters routinely cry racism when people express opposition to illegal immigration?
You[continuously] ask me questions of unknown persons...how would I ever know which persons you are referring to or what these "people" said that you consider a "cry of racism"?

If you have a specific "illegal alien supporter" in mind and examples of their "cries of racism"...maybe then, I can give you an assesment.
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