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View Poll Results: Do You Have Illegal Immigrants As Neighbors ?
YES 29 46.03%
NO 34 53.97%
Voters: 63. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-07-2011, 08:26 AM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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I dont give my neighbors English tests to evaluate the English speaking abilities. Are English test and indicator of one's neighbor being an illegal alien?

Whats a passing grade...? 70% or above= legal, below 69% or below= illegal?
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Old 06-07-2011, 08:33 AM
 
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Who said anything about a test?

Just trying to start a conversation is enough to determine.
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Old 06-07-2011, 08:53 AM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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Are you illegal?
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Old 06-07-2011, 09:10 AM
 
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Your point?

Or are you trolling?
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Old 06-07-2011, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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Its no buts about United States. Puerto Rico is not a state.

Your logic is idiotic. Babies are irrelevant as they are born in Every country.

Like one poster said 99% of Americans speak English, and if they can't then they probably are illegal or tourist.

Seems like you are trying to protect an illegal.
You've asserted that knowledge of English is "required" to be a citizen. The inhabitants of Puerto Rico are U.S. citizens. If a U.S. citizen returns from being raised abroad, what requirement doesn't allow them to enter the United States (a Legal Permanent Resident can be refused entry, but a citizen cannot) if they don't know English?

Ergo, the statement that a U.S. citizen is required to know English is false...

You can call me names and insult me, but the statement remains false...
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Old 06-07-2011, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Dalton Gardens
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Yeah well, bank robbers are humans first also but that doesn't excuse their criminal act. The parents who came here illegally and brought their kids with them need to suffer the consquences for their actions just like an American lawbreaker does.

It may not be her fault that she got scammed but anytime you use an attorney you first find out of they are on the up and up before using them. It also isn't our govenment's fault that she got scammed and it is no reason to change our immigration laws for her.
If we commit a jailable offense the judge doesn't care that we, American citizens, will be seperated from our children while incarcerated. Why should it be any different for an illegal immigrant? As you have so rightly said, they need to suffer the consequences of their actions, just like anyone else would have to do. Maybe if Social Services started taking their American-born children away, and then deporting the parents, they would think twice before coming here illegally in the first place. If their child/children, have any value to them as human beings instead of just welfare meal tickets, they will take their children back with them.
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Old 06-07-2011, 12:37 PM
 
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If we commit a jailable offense the judge doesn't care that we, American citizens, will be seperated from our children while incarcerated. Why should it be any different for an illegal immigrant? As you have so rightly said, they need to suffer the consequences of their actions, just like anyone else would have to do. Maybe if Social Services started taking their American-born children away, and then deporting the parents, they would think twice before coming here illegally in the first place. If their child/children, have any value to them as human beings instead of just welfare meal tickets, they will take their children back with them.
That is what ticks me off about the "separation of families" rhetoric that the pro-illegals use. At least an illegal has the option of taking their families with them back to their homeland if they get deported, an American doesn't have the luxury of remaining with their families if they break the law and receive a jail sentence for it.


Any children born here in the U.S. to illegals from Mexico have dual American/Mexican citizenship! Their first language is Spanish. So exactly how is it so terrible for the parents to take these children back to their own nation, Mexico?? They are as much Mexican citizens as American!
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Old 06-07-2011, 12:42 PM
 
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You've asserted that knowledge of English is "required" to be a citizen. The inhabitants of Puerto Rico are U.S. citizens. If a U.S. citizen returns from being raised abroad, what requirement doesn't allow them to enter the United States (a Legal Permanent Resident can be refused entry, but a citizen cannot) if they don't know English?

Ergo, the statement that a U.S. citizen is required to know English is false...

You can call me names and insult me, but the statement remains false...
The point is that the majority of Americans know how to speak English and in only certain cases are naturalized citizens not required to know English such as advanced age.
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Old 06-07-2011, 12:43 PM
 
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You've asserted that knowledge of English is "required" to be a citizen. The inhabitants of Puerto Rico are U.S. citizens. If a U.S. citizen returns from being raised abroad, what requirement doesn't allow them to enter the United States (a Legal Permanent Resident can be refused entry, but a citizen cannot) if they don't know English?

Ergo, the statement that a U.S. citizen is required to know English is false...

You can call me names and insult me, but the statement remains false...
For the 1000th time, you must know English to be a U.S citizen. There are exceptions to the elderly which is very few.

And for the 1,000,000th time Puerto Rico is not a state.

America is made up of the United States and has Puerto Rico as a territory.
When Puerto Rico becomes a state then you can debate the issue with PR.
PR is a separate country as it stands until it becomes a state and unite with us.
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Old 06-07-2011, 12:46 PM
 
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The point is that the majority of Americans know how to speak English and in only certain cases are naturalized citizens not required to know English such as advanced age.


It doesn't pay to talk to people who doesn't understand that logic
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