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Old 06-11-2011, 09:03 AM
 
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[quote=1AngryTaxPayer;19540271]Excuse me but are you also typing from a cell phone? If possible, can you put the other guy back on? The guy that actually debates points can spell, has answers and doesn't end everything with dot dot dot?)


You noticed that also? He isn't the only one doing that in here.

 
Old 06-11-2011, 09:33 AM
 
Location: California
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Perhaps he is upset because he needs them here to buy houses.
 
Old 06-11-2011, 01:47 PM
 
Location: NW Las Vegas - Lone Mountain
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So now you speak for all Nevadans? I happen to know some and they are very upset with the illegals. Read your local newspaper when the topic is illegal aliens and you will get a true pulse of what Nevadans think rather than your claims that the majority of Nevandans don't care.
And now you are going to lecture me about what Nevadans think?

The view of Nevadans is quite clear in who we elect and in the legislation we pass. You could see our views in the crash of Sharon Angle...womp....

No one is in favor of illegals. However I still consider the contrasts between AZ and NV very interesting. It is a terrible problem hopelessly out of control in AZ requiring legislation and action. NV with a higher relative population shares none of this problem. Sure NV would like to see the problem gone...but we don't see any sort of emergency.

And note that NV is losing as high or a higher proporation of its illegals than AZ...so we see that the migration out is apparently more driven by the economy than by enforcement.

Be a good thing all around if we could stabilize at this reduced population. The antis however will not allow that.
 
Old 06-11-2011, 09:07 PM
 
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How are you going to get a stable population of illegals when the pro illegals are bent on handing them benefits for law breaking? Legalize them (as many would have you do) and all you'll get are more illegals hoping for yet another amnesty. That's what happened as a result of the Reagan amnesty. That will happen again and again if we continue to follow our present course of rewarding them for breaking the law. They won't go away until we begin to demonstrate that we are serious about not wanting them here. The way to do that is heavily penalize them and their enablers. Unfortunately the pro illegals simply refuse to allow us to do that.

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Old 06-11-2011, 09:21 PM
 
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And now you are going to lecture me about what Nevadans think?

The view of Nevadans is quite clear in who we elect and in the legislation we pass. You could see our views in the crash of Sharon Angle...womp....

No one is in favor of illegals. However I still consider the contrasts between AZ and NV very interesting. It is a terrible problem hopelessly out of control in AZ requiring legislation and action. NV with a higher relative population shares none of this problem. Sure NV would like to see the problem gone...but we don't see any sort of emergency.

And note that NV is losing as high or a higher proporation of its illegals than AZ...so we see that the migration out is apparently more driven by the economy than by enforcement.

Be a good thing all around if we could stabilize at this reduced population. The antis however will not allow that.
You mean dirty Harry Reid? Rumor has it that many illegals voted for him and let's face it with all those casinos backing him for the cheap, illegal labor it was a slam dunk for him.

Nevada isn't on the border like Arizona is either so no comparison.

You're right anti's learned from the 1986 amnesty not to do that again and they know that rewarding illegal behavior is never a good thing and we won't allow it to happen again. Too bad the left didn't learn anything and with the ethnocentrics their self-serving interests trumps any common sense anyway.
 
Old 06-11-2011, 09:23 PM
 
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How are you going to get a stable population of illegals when the pro illegals are bent on handing them benefits for law breaking? Legalize them (as many would have you do) and all you'll get are more illegals hoping for yet another amnesty. That's what happened as a result of the Reagan amnesty. That will happen again and again if we continue to follow our present course of rewarding them for breaking the law. They won't go away until we begin to demonstrate that we are serious about not wanting them here. The way to do that is heavily penalize them and their enablers. Unfortunately the pro illegals simply refuse to allow us to do that.
A little tough love goes a long way. The opposite does not.
 
Old 06-11-2011, 09:36 PM
 
Location: Southern Willamette Valley, Oregon
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How are you going to get a stable population of illegals when the pro illegals are bent on handing them benefits for law breaking? Legalize them (as many would have you do) and all you'll get are more illegals hoping for yet another amnesty. That's what happened as a result of the Reagan amnesty. That will happen again and again if we continue to follow our present course of rewarding them for breaking the law. They won't go away until we begin to demonstrate that we are serious about not wanting them here. The way to do that is heavily penalize them and their enablers. Unfortunately the pro illegals simply refuse to allow us to do that.
Most of them have absolutely NO intention of assimilating peacefully. They will demand more, and more, and much more, eventually breaking our nation apart. Don't believe me? Just wait..... We're headed in that direction, and we will see the effects of this atrocity before most of us pass from this earth. My fear is for the well being of my child, and all future generations that have to deal with the problem that we are creating for them at the current time.
 
Old 06-11-2011, 10:29 PM
 
Location: NW Las Vegas - Lone Mountain
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You mean dirty Harry Reid? Rumor has it that many illegals voted for him and let's face it with all those casinos backing him for the cheap, illegal labor it was a slam dunk for him.
Actually Harry could never have won against any rational candidate. But they ran a right wing anti. Lost bad.

The only one who believes the Casinos employ illegals is the antis. There are a whole lot of practical reasons why that never happens. Note that Las Vegas Casino employees generally make more tha 15 an hour with full benefits. You find that deficient?

And Sharon Angle really believes that the illegal vote did her in. If you believe Sharon you really should not go out in public without a guardian.

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Nevada isn't on the border like Arizona is either so no comparison.
Neither is Maricopa...and the border counties appear to have low crime and little problem with illegals.

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You're right anti's learned from the 1986 amnesty not to do that again and they know that rewarding illegal behavior is never a good thing and we won't allow it to happen again. Too bad the left didn't learn anything and with the ethnocentrics their self-serving interests trumps any common sense anyway.
Though antis continue to demonstrate their inability to learn. It gets worse so they drive to make it worse..and on and on and on..

Reagan and Bush screwed the pup. Too bad. We should have elected better people but we did not.

One would hope the new admin will do better.

Than again they can't do worse.
 
Old 06-11-2011, 10:34 PM
 
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Actually Harry could never have won against any rational candidate. But they ran a right wing anti. Lost bad.

The only one who believes the Casinos employ illegals is the antis. There are a whole lot of practical reasons why that never happens. Note that Las Vegas Casino employees generally make more tha 15 an hour with full benefits. You find that deficient?

And Sharon Angle really believes that the illegal vote did her in. If you believe Sharon you really should not go out in public without a guardian.



Neither is Maricopa...and the border counties appear to have low crime and little problem with illegals.



Though antis continue to demonstrate their inability to learn. It gets worse so they drive to make it worse..and on and on and on..

Reagan and Bush screwed the pup. Too bad. We should have elected better people but we did not.

One would hope the new admin will do better.

Than again they can't do worse.
I hold several administrations responsible for this mess, both Democrats and Republicans are guilty. Your side is the one that didn't learn a thing from the 1986 amnesty.
 
Old 06-12-2011, 10:17 AM
 
Location: California
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You don't understand we have 10 million illegal aliens here?

What part of 10 million don't you understand?

You really think the US citizenry can't stop such things if they wish?

Or do you really think they did not notice?

I live in Las Vegas in Nevada. We have the highest percentage of illegals I know of in the US.
We don't notice. Maricopa County AZ is all upset. We have more illegals and don't get upset.
Are we the ones with the problem or is Maricopa?
It should never have happened. So go pee on Reagans tomb. But it did. So what now? And no they are not going to all go home because we are unhappy with them .
You did not post 10 million in any previous posts now did you? Why have you not answered my question about what citizen(s) you polled stating they have no strong interest in pursing the issue?

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As I expected. You really don't understand what you are discussing.
I hope your home selling skills are better than your feebile attempt at qick wit and sarcasm. I suspect you are upset with America getting fed up with illegals because you can't sell them anymore overpriced homes.
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