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Old 06-16-2011, 12:37 AM
 
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It's particularly awesome how you just assume all your relatives were here "to work the land and make their own by pursuing the American dream" while at the same time making out Mexican immigrants coming here trying to work as just a bunch of trash jumping across the border to drop a kid and......take our American dream away or something? I don't know. This alone tells a lot.

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Old 06-16-2011, 12:43 AM
 
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As has been pointed out to you multiple times grant them legal status and all you do is grant them even more access to the American welfare state.
lol again with the welfare. Yea and you can also hold them liable for their debts better, track them better, know who is paying taxes better, make sure they are all reporting income better, etc. etc. etc.

Question: Since you consider an Anchor baby an illegal alien when he is in fact a citizen I'm wondering, do you think educating him despite it costing us a bit is going to be better or worse for America in the long run? Isn't that kid going to end up paying for his education once he starts paying taxes himself anyway? IS that kid less likely to be a positive contributor to society after school than anyone else?
 
Old 06-16-2011, 12:51 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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lol again with the welfare. Yea and you
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can also hold them liable for their debts better, track them better, know who is paying taxes better, make sure they are all reporting income better,
etc. etc. etc.
What makes you think that amnesty will change ANYTHING except for making millions of anti-Americans legal citizen and sending invitation messages to millions more anti-Americans?
 
Old 06-16-2011, 12:54 AM
 
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Anti-American legal citizens rofl. That is funny. You think they hate our country? I encourage you to go to your local place of illegal immigration employment and actually talk to some of them.
 
Old 06-16-2011, 12:58 AM
 
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Just out of curiosity do you know anything at all about the history of American immigration?



Anything?

Because if you did you'd know that those groups largely immigrated LEGALLY during the second great wave of immigration. That happened roughly from 1880 to 1920...
Actually the main mass of Irish came during and after the Potato Famine, from 1845 to 1860 (at about the same time of almost a million Germanic peoples). For the time, a notion of immigrating "legally" is incorrect. We could mistakenly say that indigenous tribes hundreds of years ago hunted deer "legally" by the same convention.
 
Old 06-16-2011, 12:59 AM
 
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It's particularly awesome how you just assume all your relatives were here "to work the land and make their own by pursuing the American dream" while at the same time making out Mexican immigrants coming here trying to work as just a bunch of trash jumping across the border to drop a kid and......take our American dream away or something? I don't know. This alone tells a lot.
And it's really disgusting how you dare compare my hard working grandmother who came here legally knowing she could be deported if she couldn't manage to earn her keep with line skippers who want the rest of us to subsidize their decision to violate our immigration laws.

That also tells us a lot. Why are we obligated to respect someone who wants to help lower wages in the middle of a recession?

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lol again with the welfare. Yea and you can also hold them liable for their debts better, track them better, know who is paying taxes better, make sure they are all reporting income better, etc. etc. etc.

Question: Since you consider an Anchor baby an illegal alien when he is in fact a citizen I'm wondering, do you think educating him despite it costing us a bit is going to be better or worse for America in the long run? Isn't that kid going to end up paying for his education once he starts paying taxes himself anyway? IS that kid less likely to be a positive contributor to society after school than anyone else?
Yeah it's really funny when our tax dollars go up to subsidize the needs and desires of foreign nationals. Ha. Ha. Ha. Why can't her child get educated in her home country instead of ours?

Eh. Nevermind. I'm an American who believes that our immigration laws should be enforced. That clearly makes me a bad person unlike people who welcome the opportunity to screw over our own low skilled workers and middle class so they can think themselves morally superior.
 
Old 06-16-2011, 01:04 AM
 
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Yeah all your supposedly displaced American workers are jumping to hit up those 11K+ (and growing) jobs available in GA. Wait. No they aren't. They aren't applying for those jobs at all.
 
Old 06-16-2011, 01:05 AM
 
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Anti-American legal citizens rofl. That is funny. You think they hate our country? I encourage you to go to your local place of illegal immigration employment and actually talk to some of them.
How could we?

They don't speak English. Because learning a foreign language is hard. Therefore it should be forced on American citizens in the name of catering to criminals.

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Actually the main mass of Irish came during and after the Potato Famine, from 1845 to 1860 (at about the same time of almost a million Germanic peoples). For the time, a notion of immigrating "legally" is incorrect. We could mistakenly say that indigenous tribes hundreds of years ago hunted deer "legally" by the same convention.
You're still conveniently ignoring the fact that there was no welfare state back then. If you couldn't make it here you did not demand food stamps or bilingual education in Gaelic or German let alone subsidized housing. You simply went home.

You're also ignoring the fact that most countries today have rigorous laws on immigration that they enforce. This includes Mexico.

Neither one of you makes a convincing case that we should welcome large numbers of latinos who don't speak English and haven't even graduated from high school. Particularly in the middle of a recession when many of our own low skilled citizens cannot find work.

Awaits accusation of racism in 3 . . 2 . . 1
 
Old 06-16-2011, 01:07 AM
 
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And it's really disgusting how you dare compare my hard working grandmother who came here legally knowing she could be deported if she couldn't manage to earn her keep with line skippers who want the rest of us to subsidize their decision to violate our immigration laws.
LOL. They want jobs not your subsidies. Give it up the rhetoric already. They would happily come legally if there were an option. You already stated you don't like that idea either so you might as well quit towing the legality line. Just say you don't want Mexicans coming here period because that's where we're at here.
 
Old 06-16-2011, 01:08 AM
 
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Yeah all your supposedly displaced American workers are jumping to hit up those 11K+ (and growing) jobs available in GA. Wait. No they aren't. They aren't applying for those jobs at all.
For the last time only three percent of all illegals are farm workers. The rest are employed in industries that Americans have worked for many years such as construction. Welcome a handful of seasonal workers as temps and demand the rest go home.
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