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Old 06-12-2011, 08:13 PM
 
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"Jasper12" said (twice) that only U.S. citizens were eligible for the programs they named. Such information is false. I asked for more clarity with what they are trying to say.

Point is, "Jasper12" is focused on the citizenship of children attending schools. There are some U.S. citizen children (with taxpaying U.S. citizen parents) that will not qualify for the programs mentioned (because the family income is too high). Evaluate the programs for what they are, not judging them from an unrelated determination.
IMO, only poor legal immigrant children and poor citizen children should have access to such programs, not illegal alien children. It's bad enough that we have to pay for their education to.
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Old 06-12-2011, 08:15 PM
 
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I often wonder how the bleeding hearts and pro-illegals will feel after illegals have completely bankrupted this country, and there is nothing left for citizens. I will say in advance, apology NOT accepted.
Depends on what pro-illegal catagory they fall into. The ethnocentrics will be happy that they have their Hispanic utopia and have gained political and cultural control of our country regardless of it going bankrupt.

The bleeding hearts will be the ones with the regrets.
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Old 06-12-2011, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Originally Posted by IBMMuseum View Post
"Jasper12" said (twice) that only U.S. citizens were eligible for the programs they named. Such information is false. I asked for more clarity with what they are trying to say.

Point is, "Jasper12" is focused on the citizenship of children attending schools. There are some U.S. citizen children (with taxpaying U.S. citizen parents) that will not qualify for the programs mentioned (because the family income is too high). Evaluate the programs for what they are, not judging them from an unrelated determination.
Unfortunately, one of the most costly results of illegal immigration is the BILLIONS squandered annually on the K-12 education for the children of illegal aliens, and Mexicans who brazenly cross our borders daily to receive an education at U.S. taxpayers’ expense. Sadly, the Supreme Court has ruled that ALL children in this country are entitled to a public school education, regardless of immigration status. This includes costly ESL classes, and “free” breakfast/lunch programs.

We are the biggest fools on earth, and our enemies are patiently awaiting our demise. At our current rate of implosion, it won’t take long. And, to think, it was all done from within, without a single shot being fired from an enemy military. Illegals are our Trojan Horse and Achilles’ Heel all rolled into one. Meanwhile, all who oppose are vilified.
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Old 06-12-2011, 08:25 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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IMO, only poor legal immigrant children and poor citizen children should have access to such programs, not illegal alien children. It's bad enough that we have to pay for their education to.
"Jasper12" has stated that currently only U.S. citizens qualify for those programs. And if the family income is too high? "U.S. citizens are being denied benefits!"
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Old 06-12-2011, 08:27 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Depends on what pro-illegal catagory they fall into. The ethnocentrics will be happy that they have their Hispanic utopia and have gained political and cultural control of our country regardless of it going bankrupt.

The bleeding hearts will be the ones with the regrets.
Only, they will rule a country resembling that of the movie “The Omega Man.” They will have gained absolutely nothing.
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Old 06-12-2011, 09:17 PM
 
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I will clarify-- illegal children don't get medical services from Medicaid--but get the same services at school. We bill Medicade for all children, regardless of eligibilty. So--why are we giving medical services at public schools, and medical equipment that they would not otherwise receive?

Same with food--the illegals can't have food stamps, why do we givethem food at school? Same program...

I was sick of having a classroom full of illegal children, with aids that spoke Spanish...to the students. English was barely acknowledged. I needed interpreters for every phone call and meeting with parents--who never bothered to learn English.

And yet--an African-American girl was placed in another school, because her mother enrolled her at this school--for the excellent care and services--and the school district treated her like a criminal--because she lived in a different area.
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Old 06-12-2011, 09:25 PM
 
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"Jasper12" has stated that currently only U.S. citizens qualify for those programs. And if the family income is too high? "U.S. citizens are being denied benefits!"
You can't be serious if you think illegal alien children aren't receiving those benefits. U.S.citizens should be denied benefits meant for the poor if their parent's don't meet the low income criteria.

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Old 06-12-2011, 09:49 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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I will clarify-- illegal children don't get medical services from Medicaid--but get the same services at school. We bill Medicade for all children, regardless of eligibilty. So--why are we giving medical services at public schools, and medical equipment that they would not otherwise receive?

Same with food--the illegals can't have food stamps, why do we give them food at school? Same program...

I was sick of having a classroom full of illegal children, with aids that spoke Spanish...to the students. English was barely acknowledged. I needed interpreters for every phone call and meeting with parents--who never bothered to learn English...
You are confusing the use of Spanish with immigration status. My kids initially had to learn in Spanish, with my wife needing some conferences in Spanish. Luckily for the school district that they didn't speak some dialect from East Bjorkistan.

Today you will find my kids in school are not discernible from the native-born (despite still being Mexican Nationals)...

You're initial statement claimed only U.S. citizens qualified for benefits, are you calling a child "illegal" if they are not a citizen?...

Children qualify for benefits at school no matter of immigration status...

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...And yet--an African-American girl was placed in another school, because her mother enrolled her at this school--for the excellent care and services--and the school district treated her like a criminal--because she lived in a different area.
At least be on the right side if you are using this as a contrast. If a child lives in another school district, they are normally required to go to school there. You should recognize when someone is trying to skirt the law.
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Old 06-13-2011, 12:48 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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Perez said he believes the new law is racist and he worries about young people who are coming to Alabama from Mexico and other Lat*in American countries to make a living.
"The law pursues people who are just here trying to do good," Perez said.
People like that need an education. But he's a constuction contractor who's only been here 4 yr's. So the welfare of THIS country is beyond concern or acknowlegement to him.
His only concern is cheap labor from his comrades.


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People will look for another state to work in," Perez said.
Get over it or get out!

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Old 06-13-2011, 02:02 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Agreed; I don't see anything nefarious about this at all. If illegals don't like it they can go home.
And take all thier spawn, aunt's & uncle's with them.
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