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Old 06-24-2011, 11:33 PM
 
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That would be called the CSA, not the USA.

They lost.
On this soil, we're still Alabama/CSA, the bars and stars never went down. The other 49 states just don't know it...lol

 
Old 06-24-2011, 11:35 PM
 
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I've been reading that illegal immigrant parents in Georgia are signing papers which basically turn their American-born children over to legal immigrant family members because they are AFRAID of being caught and deported or they are preparing to remove themselves from the United States..

If I am going about my business and not doing anything illegal, I am not AFRAID. This tells us that these illegal immigrants KNOW they are doing something ILLEGAL, otherwise they would have no fear of the consequences for their actions.

My LEGAL immigrant husband and I just enjoyed a meal prepared for us by our LEGAL immigrant daughter-in-law, which was paid for by my son through LEGALLY earned money. We ate it in the home paid for by my LEGAL immigrant husband, who obtains his livelihood LEGALLY. We have no fear.

I don't feel any sadness for the FEAR of these illegal immigrants, nor do I feel sad that they are opting to leave their children behind instead of taking them back to Mexico with them. They are making the CHOICE to abandon these supposedly much-loved meal tickets, er...children, behind, and they made the CHOICE to put their children in this situation in the first place.
Or maybe they are leaving their children with family because they know their children will have chance for a better life here in the states.
 
Old 06-25-2011, 12:04 AM
 
Location: Tempe, Az
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That would be Indians. We know the distinction. Split hairs much?



Defined by you. There are many definations.



I didn't say there was a quota, did I? I meant the restrictions for obtaining visas are often more red tape that most employers wish to go thru. The system is obviously flawed.... and it leads to cheating.
Employment Law Guide - Temporary Agricultural Workers (H-2A Visas) (http://www.dol.gov/compliance/guide/taw.htm - broken link)



HuH? There are farms here that grow crops year round......>
There is NO Hispanic race. Some of us are white. Some of us are Asian or Indian. Some of us are Black. The rest of us are mixed.
 
Old 06-25-2011, 01:19 AM
 
Location: California
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Originally Posted by SFPeak View Post
That would be Indians. We know the distinction. Split hairs much?



Defined by you. There are many definations.



I didn't say there was a quota, did I? I meant the restrictions for obtaining visas are often more red tape that most employers wish to go thru. The system is obviously flawed.... and it leads to cheating.
Employment Law Guide - Temporary Agricultural Workers (H-2A Visas) (http://www.dol.gov/compliance/guide/taw.htm - broken link)



HuH? There are farms here that grow crops year round......>
1) Obviously you don't.
2) Defined by a Chicano Ideology website.
3) Your statement was
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maybe up the NUMBER of H-2A visas available just a little each year...? Just a thought.
You can't up the number on an unlimited quota. Just sayin.
 
Old 06-25-2011, 08:14 AM
 
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Or maybe they are leaving their children with family because they know their children will have chance for a better life here in the states.
So kids would really have a better life without the nurturing and presence of their fathers or mothers? Nothing can replace that.
 
Old 06-25-2011, 08:28 AM
 
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Look at that, your link agrees with me, the only difference is that they recommened allowing for the migration between employers as they migrate quite a bit. Migrant workers frequently move from state to state.

I never stated there wasn't a problem.

Actually they recommend more than just:

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I say we reduce the H-2A down from 10 months to only 4 months. Now it's no longer broken.
 
Old 06-25-2011, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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So with a shortage of 11,000 pickers in Georgia, what happens to laid off Joe when he is offered a position picking cucumbers for minimum wage and told that when he refuses employment his unemployment is terminated? Welcome to the Third World Joe
 
Old 06-25-2011, 08:53 AM
 
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When one has absolute evidence that someone is guilty of a crime whether they be an immigrant or a citizen they shouldn't be defended by regular people.
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Originally Posted by Elián González View Post

How does that work and what is a 'regular person'? If you believe in law as much as you say, doesn't everyone have a right to counsel and to be defended? Or do you not respect that law?
Reading comprehension much? He didn't say they don't have a right to be defended, but rather that they shouldn't be defended by "regular people," ie. US legal citizens.

Got it? Good.
 
Old 06-25-2011, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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Reading comprehension much? He didn't say they don't have a right to be defended, but rather that they shouldn't be defended by "regular people," ie. US legal citizens.

Got it? Good.
You know......Real Americans......it's not like they are Regular People
 
Old 06-25-2011, 09:06 AM
 
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You know......Real Americans......it's not like they are Regular People
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