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Old 06-26-2011, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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Yep. And their children got to benefit from the alleged increase holiness of the temple. Whatever god they were sacrificing to would allegedly smile increasingly upon them for generations.
Also compare this to the statements of AlabamaStorm, where as a expanding/conquering nation, America is viewed as the "beacon for the world", with God's providence shining down on us. What is the difference to the Aztecs? Both cultures are their heyday, as long as they can gain resources from those they can subjugate.

Oderint Dum Metuant

 
Old 06-26-2011, 02:47 PM
 
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Also compare this to the statements of AlabamaStorm, where as a expanding/conquering nation, America is viewed as the "beacon for the world", with God's providence shining down on us. What is the difference to the Aztecs? Both cultures are their heyday, as long as they can gain resources from those they can subjugate.

Oderint Dum Metuant
If this is your attitude/opinion of this country then why in the world would you join our military?
 
Old 06-26-2011, 02:52 PM
 
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All nations. If they want to play by the rules, take em in.

I am also for reforming trade laws, and tariffs. I don't think we should allow China's corporations or any other to set up sweat shops on our borders. That's where our government is slipping up. Individuals crossing the border is not the problem, corporate criminals exploiting the labor there is.
Disgree, both outsourcing and illegal immigration is having a huge impact on American jobs.
 
Old 06-26-2011, 02:55 PM
 
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Once reasonable laws are in effect, legal workers would come and go when they wished, not fearing the border as before, and those that wanted to stay and become citizens would have to follow the immigration laws, learn English, stay employed and out of trouble for a set number of years and then become Americans.

Once the laws are spelled out and not impossible to follow, things can get better.

Unfortunately, there are those that hate and will always put up barriers and convoluted laws.... State Sen. Russell Pearce, and Joe Arpiao in my state are such...
So no limits on legal immigration regardless of what it would do to our population growth and the availability of jobs and resources for Americans first? Have you really thought this through to its obvious conclusion? It is pretty elementary, you know.
 
Old 06-26-2011, 07:15 PM
 
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Once reasonable laws are in effect, legal workers would come and go when they wished, not fearing the border as before, and those that wanted to stay and become citizens would have to follow the immigration laws, learn English, stay employed and out of trouble for a set number of years and then become Americans.

Once the laws are spelled out and not impossible to follow, things can get better.

Unfortunately, there are those that hate and will always put up barriers and convoluted laws.... State Sen. Russell Pearce, and Joe Arpiao in my state are such...
Not while our country hands out free taxpayer provided health care and food stamps, WIC coupons and free meals in schools while their countries don't do any of that.

You can't have an open border when your country is nothing but the most generous welfare handout nation. Those who want to work might work but those who just want food stamps head to the welfare offices.

Back in the old days of immigration before there were any food stamps, free meals in schools and WIC, often immigrants returned home in a short time. Life here was hard back then.
 
Old 06-26-2011, 08:11 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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Peak mail-order brides imo.
"Mail-Order Brides" are going to come as K-1s (the fastest way actually to get legally admitted), but that is "non-immigrant", and not counted as an LPR until they do an Adjustment of Status. USCIS requires applicants to disclose whether they used such services too. Your opinion is a little off the mark, imo.
 
Old 06-26-2011, 08:26 PM
 
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Once reasonable laws are in effect, legal workers would come and go when they wished, not fearing the border as before, and those that wanted to stay and become citizens would have to follow the immigration laws, learn English, stay employed and out of trouble for a set number of years and then become Americans.

Once the laws are spelled out and not impossible to follow, things can get better.

Unfortunately, there are those that hate and will always put up barriers and convoluted laws.... State Sen. Russell Pearce, and Joe Arpiao in my state are such...
So your firm belief is that a legal system that allows anyone, subject to health and criminal record, to move from anywhere in the world would result in a healthy balance after a short period of working out the kinks. This is in a world, where roughly $1k (or much less) will fly you from Lagos, Mumbai, Port-au-Prince, Sao Paulo.

Well, good on you. I think you're incorrect, but your heart is in the right place.
 
Old 06-26-2011, 08:28 PM
 
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If this is your attitude/opinion of this country then why in the world would you join our military?
SPQR. It's as good a reason as any.
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