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Old 06-24-2011, 02:36 PM
 
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hmm...Shouldn't minorities be defended just as people of the majority are when they break the law? Are you saying minorities are less human?
Please re-read my post. I am sorry, but I am sick and tired of having to explain simple words and thoughts that are as plain as the nose on your face. We seem to have been bomarded lately with those who lack reading comprehension skills.

 
Old 06-24-2011, 02:42 PM
 
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How should we treat those that HIRE the undocumented worker?
For some reason the only thing stopping them from giving better wages and hiring citizens are those pesky illegals forcing them to pay less and hire them. It's a tough barrel to be held over. They can't wait for illegals to finally be sent away so they can pay higher wages like they've been wanting to all this time.
 
Old 06-24-2011, 02:44 PM
 
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Gonzo already responded to your post adequately, but I also want to add that yes, even those that commit the misdemeanor of unlawful entry are entitled to humane treatment.

How should we treat those that HIRE the undocumented worker?
When one has absolute evidence that someone is guilty of a crime whether they be an immigrant or a citizen they shouldn't be defended by regular people. That isn't to stay they still shouldn't have their day in court. You don't know the difference between being defended in court and someone who isn't in a LE position? I never said they shouldn't be treated humanely either.

We should treat the greedy employers just as we do illegal aliens. They are both guilty of breaking the law.

Did I make everything clear enough for you now? As there seems be one heck of reading comprehension problem in this forum of late.
 
Old 06-24-2011, 02:44 PM
 
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Well, you've also indicated that you're completely opposed to letting in a single person more than that allotted by an arbitrary government quota, even if that person wants to go through all the hoops that all the other legal immigrants did.
Are you advocating a giant free for all for whoever shows up whether there is work for them or not?
 
Old 06-24-2011, 02:46 PM
 
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We should treat the greedy employers just as we do illegal aliens.
So, deport the employers? Where?
 
Old 06-24-2011, 02:48 PM
 
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Please re-read my post. I am sorry, but I am sick and tired of having to explain simple words and thoughts that are as plain as the nose on your face. We seem to have been bomarded lately with those who lack reading comprehension skills.
I did reread it. A couple of times. It does seem like a simple thought w/o much critical thinking involved otherwise you'd be able to answer my question in response to it.

Are you saying that minorities shouldn't be defended when they break the law? (It's such a simple question and you should be able to answer it as plain as the nose on your face)

Note for comprehension: you're not specifying illegals, but minorities in general. This includes minority citizens.
 
Old 06-24-2011, 02:52 PM
 
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When one has absolute evidence that someone is guilty of a crime whether they be an immigrant or a citizen they shouldn't be defended by regular people. That isn't to stay they still shouldn't have their day in court. You don't know the difference between being defended in court and someone who isn't in a LE position? .
Interesting answer for such a 'laws are laws!' person.

A day in court, yet not defended by anyone, er, any 'regular' person.

How does that work and what is a 'regular person'? If you believe in law as much as you say, doesn't everyone have a right to counsel and to be defended? Or do you not respect that law?
 
Old 06-24-2011, 02:56 PM
 
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I did reread it. A couple of times. It does seem like a simple thought w/o much critical thinking involved otherwise you'd be able to answer my question in response to it.

Are you saying that minorities shouldn't be defended when they break the law? (It's such a simple question and you should be able to answer it as plain as the nose on your face)

Note for comprehension: you're not specifying illegals, but minorities in general. This includes minority citizens.
I was replying to someone who only used the word "minorities". Read all the posts for continuity, will you? I explained my position in post #113. Now will somone please pass me the Tylenol?
 
Old 06-24-2011, 03:05 PM
 
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I explained my position in post #113. Now will somone please pass me the Tylenol?
No, you actually didn't explain your position, you just stated it. Here's some questions for you I'll repost so ya don't hurt your head more by scrolling back:

Interesting answer for such a 'laws are laws!' person.

A day in court, yet not defended by anyone, er, any 'regular' person.

How does that work and what is a 'regular person'? If you believe in law as much as you say, doesn't everyone have a right to counsel and to be defended? Or do you not respect that law?

Yeah, my head might hurt to from all the cognitive dissonance.
 
Old 06-24-2011, 03:06 PM
 
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...Now will somone please pass me the Tylenol?
"Extra Strength" or regular? You should lie down for a little bit too. We'll wait.
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